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Old 11-17-2006, 06:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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allpro uca

Im considering upper control arms to help out with alignment issues and found allpros on sale and the cheapest.Has anyone had any experience with these as far as quality and ride goes.IM not expecting a big gain in articulation just want something that doesn't squeek and wear out quick.I personally dont see the difference between allpro,camburg and total chaos except for price.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: allpro uca

Correct me if I'm wrong, but UCAs aren't required to "fix alignment issues" on the FJ. Far better things to be spending your cash on, unless you just really like the way they look.

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Depends on how high ya lift.
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Re: allpro uca

I was ready to get them as part of the "complete" lift and was told they are stock configuration as far as alignment goes. I spent the money I had set aside for them on the upper rear links and skid plates. They are stronger, if that is your goal. But definately a spendy mod for the neoprene squeak and little if any benefit to the average offroader.
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Ive had it aligned at two places.1st was on a new hunter machine with a reputable shop and it was twitchy on the freeway and not within spec. 2nd was the local dealer and now it has the front end shake at aprox 60 mph.I guess I'll try one more alignment but this is getting expensive.
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Ive had it aligned at two places.1st was on a new hunter machine with a reputable shop and it was twitchy on the freeway and not within spec. 2nd was the local dealer and now it has the front end shake at aprox 60 mph.I guess I'll try one more alignment but this is getting expensive.
Front end shake @ 60 mph is unlikely due to alignment - its usually resonant vibration from out of balance wheels/tires...were the tire rotated when you had the alignment done the second time ??
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Thanks Larry.You were right on the money.The dealer rotated the tires and I just swicthed them back and all is good.
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Thanks Larry.You were right on the money.The dealer rotated the tires and I just swicthed them back and all is good.
Get em balanced so when you do rotate you will not have the same problem.
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Re: allpro uca

Just to clarify, the upper a-arms are not required for alignment issues on US spec FJ's, they ARE required for Canadian models. For some reason Toyota used two different arms for the US market, the FJ and 4 Runner got arms that have the same geometry as the aftermarket arms, but the Tacoma got the straight arms at the ball joint area that causes them to bind when lifted and pul the camber way out of whack. Canadians got boned and got the Taco arms on the FJ, so they have to swap them for anything more than about 1.5" front lift.
The Chromoly arms DO however give you added strength from a tubular design vs. the OEM "C" shaped setup, the urethane bushings deflect less but last longer (but are harder & tend to squeak more when not lubed, but we provide zerk fittings for grease) and the Uniball requires monthly oiling to kep squeaks down. It is a straight bolt through the uniball instead of a tapered fit that stays tight, so slight rattles are possible, but they are replacable when worn at $49 each.
We are also just discovering that Canada also got longer rear lower shock studs on the axle that cause play at the bushing. The US spec FJ's have each side of the lower shock bushing touching a washer when installed, but the CDN models have a 1/2" gap at one end that lets the shock "float" on the stud. Spacers made from the old OEM shock bushing need to be made for those models.
We cant figure out why Toyota would make both those items different for North Amreican FJ's, but they did.
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