I just ordered a set of 883s, but now I started thinking maybe I should have went ahead and did the complete lift. I don't do a lot of serious offroading, so its not like I need a complete lift, I just think it looks more bad ass. I know I will like the improved look the 883s give it, but I fear its going to have me wanting more.
I have 285 BFG ATs on already, and they are pretty stuffed in there with the stock suspension. I think with the 285s, the 883s will open up the front wheel wells some, but it won't have the same effect as with a stock size tire. I feel to get a "lifted" look, I will have to go with an all around lift.
Any input or advice would be appreciated.
Also, I am guestimating that the 883 will cost me around $300 for parts and install, whereas the complete lift would be in the range of $800-900 for parts and install. Is this about right?
I lifted just the front a couple of months ago and I am now kicking myself for not going ahead and doing a full lift all around. I thought I just wanted it to be level and wanted more room for my Terra Grapplers. Come to think of it, no matter what I do with the FJ, I want more and more and more...Will the sickness ever end.
your cost estimate is about right; I have been looking at the OMEs as well.
Personally I think it is probably worth it to have the upgraded rear springs and upgraded shocks all around as well if you are going to go to the trouble at all.
I am not sure of the spring rate of the 883s; I have enquired of ARBUSA.
the 884s and 885 are 590 lbs per inch, the 886s are 660 lbs/inch.
Apparantly the difference between the 884 and 885 is in the shock; I would like to know what that difference is, whether it is stiffer on both compression or rebound or both.
Word seems to be if you have stock bumper to do the 884s, an aftermarket bumper to do the 885s, and if also a winch, maybe the 886s.
The 895s (rears) are 260 lbs per inch.
I am pretty close to doing it, if for no reason other than the increased road safety with less body roll ambiguity in curves (which I think is frankly a hazard with the FJ).
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i have noticed with the 885 895 lift the front isnt bad but the rear is slightly stiffer. and also no picture will do the 885/895 lift justice. its very nice once the vehicle is lifted. the door jam is now near my knee.
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With the 883 on the front did it level out the ride? I want to level out my ride and I put bigger rims and tire on so I think it would help out but I don't want the front higher than the back?
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I just ordered a set of 883s, but now I started thinking maybe I should have went ahead and did the complete lift. I don't do a lot of serious offroading, so its not like I need a complete lift, I just think it looks more bad ass. I know I will like the improved look the 883s give it, but I fear its going to have me wanting more.
I have 285 BFG ATs on already, and they are pretty stuffed in there with the stock suspension. I think with the 285s, the 883s will open up the front wheel wells some, but it won't have the same effect as with a stock size tire. I feel to get a "lifted" look, I will have to go with an all around lift.
Any input or advice would be appreciated.
Also, I am guestimating that the 883 will cost me around $300 for parts and install, whereas the complete lift would be in the range of $800-900 for parts and install. Is this about right?
Just take a look at photos of both options in the many related threads. If you prefer the looks (which seems to be a big factor in your case) and you have the disposable income, then the answer is obvious, unless you have other mitigating factors like height clearance in parking structures (like in my case) or fear of heights .
One of the reasons I went with 883's is the fact that the suspension will remain a lot closer to the original geometry compared to the "3-inch" kits out there. My fj is a daily driver, racking up 60 miles per day on my commute. Only time will tell, but I think driveline wear would be greatly reduced by keeping the suspension and driveline geometry as close to OE as possible. I'm not a hard-core off-roader... I don't do the stuff where I'm scraping up the underside over boulders, so this amount of lift works out perfectly for me.
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I lifted just the front a couple of months ago and I am now kicking myself for not going ahead and doing a full lift all around. I thought I just wanted it to be level and wanted more room for my Terra Grapplers. Come to think of it, no matter what I do with the FJ, I want more and more and more...Will the sickness ever end.
That is my fear.
I played around with a jack and a camera to try to get an idea of how each would look. This is what I came up with. The first is stock, second is close to what the 883s would look like, and last is close to what a complete lift would look like.
I played around with a jack and a camera to try to get an idea of how each would look. This is what I came up with. The first is stock, second is close to what the 883s would look like, and last is close to what a complete lift would look like.
Thanks for the input guys.
FYI, the 2nd pic isn't really a good simulation of the 883 setup... looks like your cinder block jack lifted the front and rear at the same time resulting in a raked stance, which the 883 will not have. 883's should get it very close to level, with a slight rake.
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