Yo T, about measuring droop, can I measure it without taking a coil over out and just remove the sway bar link from the opposite side of the droop? Won't this be good for comparing mine with a stock FJ? Or, is it necessary to remove the coil over?
Yo Chris, you'd need to remove the coilover (just remove the bottom pivot bolt) to measure max CV angle and then measure suspension droop with the coilover installed to see if this angle is less than the max CV angle (should be less). Disconnecting the swaybar makes it easier to droop the front suspension. One limit strap per side is all you'd need.
Yo Chris, you'd need to remove the coilover (just remove the bottom pivot bolt) to measure max CV angle and then measure suspension droop with the coilover installed to see if this angle is less than the max CV angle (should be less). Disconnecting the swaybar makes it easier to droop the front suspension. One limit strap per side is all you'd need.
Thank you sir. Should I use this same technique when I measure the stock FJ?
Suecyde; previously said:
Call it Stupidity...I call it Great. --> but unless you have done one of these things to or with your FJ...YOU WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND!!
As to straps, I went to Donahoe Racing some time ago since they won Baja and had straps on their FJ.
Frank (Donahoe chief engineer) advised against it unless it was going to be strictly a racing rig. I fully intended to put on straps, remove the sway bar, etc. until I spoke with him and came away with the impression that it was a less than good idea.
Please don't flame me. I was looking for advice from somebody smarter than myself they way you are.
My present thought is not to over-drive the FJ. Yes, you might out-run me in the desert, but my rig isn't a desert racing vehicle and I can't afford to re-build it after each and every run the way Donahoe does. (and I don't have an in-house genius engineer to do the work) Which is the point here.
Straps work, we all know that - but how severely do you want to modify your FJ and what will be the down-stream cost to the system as a whole if you push it way beyond design specifications. Other parts will break and wear prematurely. AIR2AIR's saga is one of modify-at-your-own-risk. His rig is way cool and Todd is a friend, but once you go down the severe mod trail, it becomes very involved.
As to straps, I went to Donahoe Racing some time ago since they won Baja and had straps on their FJ.
Frank (Donahoe chief engineer) advised against it unless it was going to be strictly a racing rig. I fully intended to put on straps, remove the sway bar, etc. until I spoke with him and came away with the impression that it was a less than good idea.
Please don't flame me. I was looking for advice from somebody smarter than myself they way you are.
My present thought is not to over-drive the FJ. Yes, you might out-run me in the desert, but my rig isn't a desert racing vehicle and I can't afford to re-build it after each and every run the way Donahoe does. (and I don't have an in-house genius engineer to do the work) Which is the point here.
Straps work, we all know that - but how severely do you want to modify your FJ and what will be the down-stream cost to the system as a whole if you push it way beyond design specifications. Other parts will break and wear prematurely. AIR2AIR's saga is one of modify-at-your-own-risk. His rig is way cool and Todd is a friend, but once you go down the severe mod trail, it becomes very involved.
Why did Frank advise against using limit straps. I understand the modification issue.... Once you start, it never really ends. And if you push your rig hard, and I guess I'd fall into that group, you'll end up busting stuff. I'm just curious about why limit straps would be problematic for other components. I mean, it is obvious that if you stick a heavy bumper and winch on the front, you'll want a suspension upgrade.. then a UCA upgrade, then maybe a steering upgrade..... but adding limit straps doesn't seem like it would really impact other parts very much.
Or are you saying that removing the swaybar and getting long travel suspension kits is a bad idea if your rig is your Daily Driver? I ditched my swaybar a while back. I couldn't even tell it was gone when driving on the road.
I'm just curious about what and why he doesn't recommend. There is really no way around the fact that wheeling can be expensive... even when you do it on the cheap and do all your own work. It is a relatively expensive hobby.... you know, compared to say... hunting mushrooms.
Re: Limit straps--question
My WEs work fine for my application and build.
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