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Old 05-14-2008, 08:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Donaho's rubbing on wheel speed sensor cable

I've had the DR's in front for 8k miles and took my car in for 15k service. The dealer mechanic pointed out to me where the bottom coil was coming into contact with the wheel speed sensor bracket and wheel speed sensor cable which killed the cable over time.

I contacted Icon Vehicle Dynamics who have not previously seen this prob and agreed that I should post here. They suggested that my install might be incorrect. There's not much to go wrong with the install AFAIC and the spacer required for the lower A-arm is in the proper forward position.

On the pics taken from the front corners of the FJC, you can see the surface of both driver and passenger lower coils is scratched from contacting the wheel speed sensor bracket and that on the passenger side, the cable insulation is torn. The contact with the bottom coil is from the part of the wheel speed sensor bracket just beneath the zip tie and on the inboard surface of the cable. I didn't take a pic of the reverse angle of the passenger side cable but it looks like this has been an ongoing problem just based on how the cable has worn through.

I've done a fair amount of rock crawling and blasting down fire roads. Has anybody else experienced this problem? I think the easiest way to tell is if the outboard surface of your bottom DR coil is scratched. Thanks.

Passenger side, note broken cable beneath zip tie

Passenger side, closeup of scratched bottom coil

Driver's side, you can barely see the cable bulging just beneath zip tie

Driver's side, closeup of scratched bottom coil



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Re: Donaho's rubbing on wheel speed sensor cable

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I've had the DR's in front for 8k miles and took my car in for 15k service. The dealer mechanic pointed out to me where the bottom coil was coming into contact with the wheel speed sensor bracket and wheel speed sensor cable which killed the cable over time.

I contacted Icon Vehicle Dynamics who have not previously seen this prob and agreed that I should post here. They suggested that my install might be incorrect. There's not much to go wrong with the install AFAIC and the spacer required for the lower A-arm is in the proper forward position.

On the pics taken from the front corners of the FJC, you can see the surface of both driver and passenger lower coils is scratched from contacting the wheel speed sensor bracket and that on the passenger side, the cable insulation is torn. The contact with the bottom coil is from the part of the wheel speed sensor bracket just beneath the zip tie and on the inboard surface of the cable. I didn't take a pic of the reverse angle of the passenger side cable but it looks like this has been an ongoing problem just based on how the cable has worn through.

I've done a fair amount of rock crawling and blasting down fire roads. Has anybody else experienced this problem? I think the easiest way to tell is if the surface of your bottom DR coil is scratched. Thanks.

Passenger side, note broken cable beneath zip tie

Passenger side, closeup of scratched bottom coil

Driver's side, you can barely see the cable bulging just beneath zip tie

Driver's side, closeup of scratched bottom coil



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http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...idecloseup.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...riversside.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...idecloseup.jpg
Hmm, I'm thinking a drill, an adel clamp, a bolt with a teflon nut and relocate it. shouldn't be to hard.
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Re: Donaho's rubbing on wheel speed sensor cable

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I've done a fair amount of rock crawling and blasting down fire roads. Has anybody else experienced this problem? I think the easiest way to tell is if the outboard surface of your bottom DR coil is scratched. Thanks.
I've probably had DR coilovers on my rig longer than anyone else here, and I've abused the crap out of them and have never seen evidence of contact. I agree, either something is weird with the install, or more likely, the wheel sensor cable is bowed out slightly more than normal. I don't think the rubbing is due to your driving though, because there are many abusive relationships on this forum between user and coilover!
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No problems with mine I have had them on for over a year.
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Hmm, I'm thinking a drill, an adel clamp, a bolt with a teflon nut and relocate it. shouldn't be to hard.

That sounds like an elegant solution. I was just gonna bang on the bracket with a sledgehammer and bend it outta the way. I'll splice a length of cable on the passenger side as it's lost continuity.
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I've probably had DR coilovers on my rig longer than anyone else here, and I've abused the crap out of them and have never seen evidence of contact. I agree, either something is weird with the install, or more likely, the wheel sensor cable is bowed out slightly more than normal. I don't think the rubbing is due to your driving though, because there are many abusive relationships on this forum between user and coilover!
4RnrJ, I did the install myself and don't remember that there was anything to could screw up except for the lower spacers. The issue is not with the cable bowing out but with the bracket and the coil. The cable is just an innocent bystander that happens to get munched between the two.

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JT, thanks for checking.



BTW, I'll be out of town for a few days without computer access. Thank you for any additional input.
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Re: Donaho's rubbing on wheel speed sensor cable

STOP THE PRESSES!!!

My mechanic was wrong. With the help of CruiserLarry at Dirty Parts in Culver City, we figured out the scratches on the bottom coil were from the bolts that attach the swaybar links to the swaybar. I didn't realize how much the swaybar could move laterally, especially when held by Donahoe's swaybar relocator blocks.

Regarding the real problem, I had the wheel speed cable replaced months ago under warranty. Apparently, the dealership mechanic routed the cable incorrectly along the bracket. You can see the differences when comparing the driver's and passenger's side cable. Just look at the two attachment points where the cable attaches to the bracket. On the passenger's side bracket, the lower attachment's plastic cable holder is mounted backwards so that the cable has an extra kink in it (which the mechanic tried to remedy with a cable tie).

Anyways, now I gotta call Icon Vehicle Dynamics and apologize.
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I was going to say I haven't had a problem with mine in 10K and I would doubt that Donahoe/ICON would have overlooked anything allowing a problem such as this to occur.
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STOP THE PRESSES!!!

My mechanic was wrong. With the help of CruiserLarry at Dirty Parts in Culver City, we figured out the scratches on the bottom coil were from the bolts that attach the swaybar links to the swaybar. I didn't realize how much the swaybar could move laterally, especially when held by Donahoe's swaybar relocator blocks.

Regarding the real problem, I had the wheel speed cable replaced months ago under warranty. Apparently, the dealership mechanic routed the cable incorrectly along the bracket. You can see the differences when comparing the driver's and passenger's side cable. Just look at the two attachment points where the cable attaches to the bracket. On the passenger's side bracket, the lower attachment's plastic cable holder is mounted backwards so that the cable has an extra kink in it (which the mechanic tried to remedy with a cable tie).

Anyways, now I gotta call Icon Vehicle Dynamics and apologize.
Don't worry, they'll understand. IVD makes fine products that are well designed and tested. Thanks for stopping by, and glad we were able to help...
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