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Re: Nice writeup by Edmunds
Brakes are WONDERFUL, compared to the stopping power of my FJ80. That is one area of the FJC i would never ever complain about.
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The braking system is a pressurized system similar to the 1990-1995 Range Rover system. It works a lot like air brakes on a Semi and requires a very careful touch to modulate the braking. You can hear the servo "pumping up" soon after startup (if parked for a good while) if you listen for a little mechanical hum and sometimes you can feel the "kickback" through the pedal if your foot is resting on it when it pressurizes.
Very interesting...the Service Manager at my local Toyota dealer told me that pressuring up noise was attributed to the clutch system. (And in fact the clutch pedal is pretty limp until it's started.) It'd be nice to get the real scoop on this?
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Re: Nice writeup by Edmunds
I really like the brakes and they still perform consistently (meaning no surprises) after OME lift and bigger tires (285s). but then again me and wifey have been strictly driving toyota products for years...so were both jaded and numb
Very interesting...the Service Manager at my local Toyota dealer told me that pressuring up noise was attributed to the clutch system. (And in fact the clutch pedal is pretty limp until it's started.) It'd be nice to get the real scoop on this?
It's not the clutch cuz I have an AT and it does the little noise as well. I'm assuming brakes as well. Since they are electrically assisted (sort of)
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Very interesting...the Service Manager at my local Toyota dealer told me that pressuring up noise was attributed to the clutch system. (And in fact the clutch pedal is pretty limp until it's started.) It'd be nice to get the real scoop on this?
The "real scoop"? You guys think I just reach up and pull this outta my colon?
Check into it, I HATE to be wrong, so I rarely am!
Very interesting...the Service Manager at my local Toyota dealer told me that pressuring up noise was attributed to the clutch system. (And in fact the clutch pedal is pretty limp until it's started.) It'd be nice to get the real scoop on this?
so many idiots selling cars (which is OK... they could be surgeons or airline pilots). There is no power assist for the clutch, it is a straight line from the pedal to the throwout bearing fork.
THe brakes are pressurized (the silver dome device with all the orange hazard warnings on it is the hydraulic pressure accumulator) so the traction control, VSC, ABS and ATRAC and everything have a resevoir of pressurized fluid to work from.
THe brake software contains an panic stop detection algorithm which applies additional brake effort if it senses that you are in a panic stop situation. You may actually feel the pedal go down behind your foot a little as this software tries to help you from hitting something.
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My former vehicle is an ML320. It had the emergency braking feature. It was unbelievable. A couple of times I was convinced I was heading toward a major rear ender and the brakes kicked in and that damn thing would stop on a dime. I would end up with my face pressed against the windsheild.
So far the brakes in the FJ seem really good. I am comforted to hear the FJ has a braking system similar to that in my old vehicle.
The "real scoop"? You guys think I just reach up and pull this outta my colon?
Check into it, I HATE to be wrong, so I rarely am!
Hey, please...no offense intended. I'm not accusin' nobody (on this Forum at least) of pulling nothing outta nowhere! I meant...it'd be nice if the Toyota dealership had informed people working at their service desks who actually...really could answer questions asked. Obviously they don't! I believe you Rover. And I intend to go to my local Toyota Dealership and confront them on this issue! I don't like to be wrong either...I was just puttin' out some info (BS obviously) that someone told me from a source I USED TO TRUST. The stuff on this forum is way more informative than the owners manual and the Toyota Dealership-service manager, and I in fact thank you for setting me straight on this issue. Thanks. Keep on wheelin'
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96 Ford F250 Diesel (The farm truck.)
2000 4Runner (Wife's, 156,000 miles.)
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With 15000 miles on my FJ, I think this article was pretty accruate.
I could not agree more on with the former Toyota engineer saying that the TRD exhaust is a waste of $550.00. Crow bling!
Yes, Very true. If you want a better (louder) noise, $50. will do. Several options.
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it took me a few hours to get used to the fj brakes. my sister and a friend test drove my fj over the weekend and said that they had to get used to the brakes as they were a bit more sensitive than their cars. however, they got used to it pretty quickly and dug the ride.
i think when people test drive vehicles for reviews, they don't spend enough time in them to get accustomed to it. to claim that the fj brakes are too sensitive would almost be the same as saying another make/model's brakes are not responsive enough. it depends on what you are used to.
the only thing i'm still getting used to is the fact that i'm driving an automatic tranny, which means more braking. i miss engine braking in heavy traffic.