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The 2017 New York Auto Show saw the debut of a new concept vehicle from Toyota, called the FT-4X, but the teaser may have given off the wrong impression to off-road fans.

Thanks to that teaser and the name, the car built expectations of serious off-road cred, but the final reveal had us looking at something that’s kind of like a Jeep Renegade crossed with a Honda Element.

Needless to say, the cult of Toyota off-roading fans weren’t amused. With this concept car riding on the same TNGA platform shared with the C-HR and Prius, it’s clearly not as hardcore as something like an FJ Cruiser.
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I believe Toyota is not thinking about the true off road enthusiasts who have a desire to see something REAL in an offroad format to challenge the Rubicon. Toyota could really make an impact on that sector if they got out of their traditonal/ conservative ideology of what the market calls for. They could bring in a new model of the old school fj 40 and make it a modern day true off road competitor that would blow away the Rubicon in quality and reliability. As long as Toyota continues to stay in their old mindset there will be no fresh ideas to truly quench the thirst of the American true offroaders who want alternatives to what the market offers here. This new FT-4X Concept will not satisfy the folks who were hoping for Toyota to offer up anything to replace the discontinued FJ Cruiser.
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Just bring back the FJ.....
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I believe Toyota is not thinking about the true off road enthusiasts who have a desire to see something REAL in an offroad format to challenge the Rubicon. Toyota could really make an impact on that sector if they got out of their traditonal/ conservative ideology of what the market calls for.
To be honest the offroad market is tiny. They'd rather appeal to the people who think taking a dirt road is offroading which is 90% of people. The folks on this forum who actually use their vehicles to the extreme represent 2% of car buyers and know better than to expect the concept to be good offroad, but true offroad capability just doesn't matter to anyone else.
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I believe Toyota is not thinking about the true off road enthusiasts who have a desire to see something REAL in an offroad format to challenge the Rubicon. Toyota could really make an impact on that sector if they got out of their traditonal/ conservative ideology of what the market calls for. They could bring in a new model of the old school fj 40 and make it a modern day true off road competitor that would blow away the Rubicon in quality and reliability. As long as Toyota continues to stay in their old mindset there will be no fresh ideas to truly quench the thirst of the American true offroaders who want alternatives to what the market offers here. This new FT-4X Concept will not satisfy the folks who were hoping for Toyota to offer up anything to replace the discontinued FJ Cruiser.
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A replacement is one thing, but the current 4Runner shares the same platform as the FJ Cruiser and has all the bells and whistles on the Trail models as well as the TRD Pro, but with a few more modern conveniences. I got the impression that Toyota just thought, as knowledgable as FJ Cruiser enthusiast are, that we'd just simply transition to the 4Runner and I don't know if that's really been the case. I know a few who have. We almost did, but the Mrs. just couldn't get over the fact that, to her, it just simply looked like every other SUV on the roads today. She likes her uniqueness with the FJ and we'll keep it forever, no matter how many times I have to rebuild it to keep it on the road. Old dogs, new tricks, creatures of habit, all that jazz!


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A replacement is one thing, but the current 4Runner shares the same platform as the FJ Cruiser and has all the bells and whistles on the Trail models as well as the TRD Pro, but with a few more modern conveniences. I got the impression that Toyota just thought, as knowledgable as FJ Cruiser enthusiast are, that we'd just simply transition to the 4Runner and I don't know if that's really been the case. I know a few who have. We almost did, but the Mrs. just couldn't get over the fact that, to her, it just simply looked like every other SUV on the roads today. She likes her uniqueness with the FJ and we'll keep it forever, no matter how many times I have to rebuild it to keep it on the road. Old dogs, new tricks, creatures of habit, all that jazz!
Hey Cabin,

Totally agree. I was nearing a 4Runner purchase when I drove the FJ, to be honest as an afterthought. Being a taller guy, the 4Runner barely had enough headroom, and it felt like a cramped cabin and large greenhouse. I actually loved the contrast of the FJ, not only is it more unique, but it has tons of room, and I happen to love the cave like feel due to the thick pillars, short windows, it feels like a tank. With the 4Runner, my head felt too close to the headliner and too close to the glass. They are fantastic vehicles, no doubt, but the FJ really brought it home for me.
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I'm a really big guy and I had an old 4Runneer that worked for me, but the FJ was like the difference between a small truck and a full sized truck as far as room and headroom for me when I first sat in one. I loved it. I wanted a new Tacoma and it was just too cramped. The width with the console was narrow, the windshield felt like it was in my face, and I only had like 1" maybe 2" between my head and the roof. I ended up with the Tundra and it was a lot more roomy and for almost the same price as the Tacoma too.

Umm......I thought the 4Runner looked completely different than any other vehicle in that class out there what with the carp mouth grill on it.






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I'm a really big guy and I had an old 4Runneer that worked for me, but the FJ was like the difference between a small truck and a full sized truck as far as room and headroom for me when I first sat in one. I loved it. I wanted a new Tacoma and it was just too cramped. The width with the console was narrow, the windshield felt like it was in my face, and I only had like 1" maybe 2" between my head and the roof. I ended up with the Tundra and it was a lot more roomy and for almost the same price as the Tacoma too.

Umm......I thought the 4Runner looked completely different than any other vehicle in that class out there what with the carp mouth grill on it.





I thought so too but she hated the grille. I told her it'd look fine after we winch bumper and expedition oned the heck out of it, roof rack and all the goodies, and her reply was we have an FJ that is already all preppered out, why buy another one, so I bought the Tacoma and she stole my FJ. I'm still thinking of buying another one when the time and fundage presents itself.
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Here is what I shared in another thread:

I personally don't think the FT-4X looks too bad. Cooler than the Jeep equivalent! Which is the Renegade in my opinion, I would not say it is in competition to the Bronco or to Jeep Wranglers AT ALL like what some people anticipated.

I understand it has a purpose for why it was built but it is no FJ, and when you try to compare the 2 of course you'll be disappointed. If I wanted a little more capable vehicle that had 4WD for going on weekend trips down dirt roads to lakes and camping spots and stuff but didn't want to commit to a true off-road vehicle and wanted to save on gas mileage I would probably take this into serious consideration, which is exactly why it was built. " #spontaneous #adventurous #youngpeople " is what they said about the FT-4X and I think it fits that bill.

And of course it is a concept car, let's not forget that. It has already been said there are no plans on making it a reality but even if it did, only some of the features of the concept would carry over. It does have a lot of "unique" ideas but just look at how "out there" the 2003 FJ concept was, it had a lot of non-practical ideas just like the FT-4X. So I don't know why the FT-4X is getting so much hate, probably because everyone just wanted it to be the next FJ... which it isn't.

Let's just deal with the fact that it definitely isn't the "FJ Cruiser replacement" everyone thought it might be and put it in its own little world, which in this case is right along-side the RAV4. The longer and more you compare it to the FJ Cruiser the more and more disappointed you'll be.
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I thought so too but she hated the grille. I told her it'd look fine after we winch bumper and expedition oned the heck out of it, roof rack and all the goodies, and her reply was we have an FJ that is already all preppered out, why buy another one, so I bought the Tacoma and she stole my FJ. I'm still thinking of buying another one when the time and fundage presents itself.
When I first saw photos of that new grill my reaction was WTF???? Then I started seeing a few in person and then the modded ones and it grew on me as they don't look bad at all when modded. I still kind of shake my head at the stock ones, but even they aren't bad now that I'm used to them.

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