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Parunuweap Canyon Run - Elephant Gap through Elephant Cove
On April 25, VOLHOO and I made a run at Purunweap Canyon (located s/w of the Mt. Carmel Junction (State Route 9 and State Route 89) in the Kanab Area.
The road is a loop of sorts. We left pavement near the Coral Pink Sand Dunes State Park and traveled north on the Elephant Gap road.
The East Fork of the Virgin River runs through Parunuweap Canyon. In the late 1800's the area was a mail route/road.
Today it's used almost exclusively by ATV's which means that the "road" is very narrow in places. In other places, you have to use the "guess" method to decide where the road is because the sand is VERY deep - skid plate deep - through much of the trip.
VOLHOO in The Brigadier.
Scorpion on some slick rock.
VOLHOO negotiates a rocky decline.
This route is NOT-NOT-NOT 2WD friendly.
Winch recovery on The Brigadier. The sand was very fine and it caused huge traction problems on hills. The only solution in this case was the winchline. It didn't put much strain on the line - just enough to get VOLHOO through this tight spot.
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Parunuweap Canyon Run - (continued) Virgin River Crossings
The road down to the virgin river is very steep and sandy. I had the brakes locked up and slid down the 1000 or so feet on steep sand much like a toboggan. You steer with the front wheels and ....pray. No photos - we were way too busy.
After the sand comes the Virgin River. The trail crossed the Virgin River about twenty times (no I'm not exaggerating) and required road building to get our FJ's through crossings used by ATV's.
This isn't the best example - no photo of that one, but I was well over a 60 degree angle getting out of one of the crossings. VOLHOO has a photo. No, it's not doctored, I'm going STRAIGHT up.
The route should take you about 4-5 hours to complete and it's roughly 20 miles long - if you don't break down or slide off of the road (way down) into the canyon. Technically Difficult for an FJ.
I ended up using the axe to take down part of a tree and the shovel for some road building, but only because it's only used by ATV's. A heavy FJ makes the route a lot more of a challenge than an ultra light ATV.
We found that the all-terrain tires are not suited for this excursion and again, if you try it in a 2WD FJ, you won't make it. The skid-deep sand for at least 15 of the 20 miles is not 2WD FJ friendly at all.
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THE SCORPION véhicule tout terrain scorpion
скорпион сервисное транспортное средство
โตโยต้า จัตุรงค์ ยาง ล้อเลื่อน แมงป่อง
vier Radantrieb vom Straßenfahrzeug Skorpion
automóvil cuatro rueda Escorpión
蠍子, 豐田越野汽車
Нэвтрүүлэгч хилэнцэт хорхой
macchina fuoristrada lo Scorpione
(1) Run the route the way we did. If you come in from the Mt. Carmel Junction side, you won't make it up the long steep, deep sand hill down to the Virgin River without EXTENSIVE winching. I'm guessing 4-5 hours to get to the top of the hill in an FJ. Note that I'm not saying that it can't be done, I'm only suggesting that it will be far more work than it's worth.
(2) Air down to 10 psi or lower. (VOLHOO thought to bring sled dogs with him in case he got stuck)
(3) 4WD only.
(4) A winch and recovery gear including axe, shovel and a pull pal are highly recommended. Much better to have and not need than to need and not have.
(5) Take your time. Enjoy the scenery. It's a beautiful run.
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THE SCORPION véhicule tout terrain scorpion
скорпион сервисное транспортное средство
โตโยต้า จัตุรงค์ ยาง ล้อเลื่อน แมงป่อง
vier Radantrieb vom Straßenfahrzeug Skorpion
automóvil cuatro rueda Escorpión
蠍子, 豐田越野汽車
Нэвтрүүлэгч хилэнцэт хорхой
macchina fuoristrada lo Scorpione
Looks like you guys had one hell of a day. Thanks for the pictures.
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Thanks for sharing. Looks like a great ride. Not to far away for me, maybe next fall or winter when I am down in the area. Great pictures!
If it's raining, that sand would be even more difficult IMO and the slickrock would make things tough going. If the Virgin River is up, those water crossings would be even more challenging.
We met an old cowboy on an ATV - looking for missing cows and his ATV slipped off the side of a sand cliff while he was trying to pass VOLHOO. We helped him recover the ATV with a winch strap. Then we talked to him for a while. He said they get quite a bit of snow in the area (6000 ft) in the winter and the road is impassable in any vehicle. He said that it gets very nasty up there in the winter. Spring and Fall should work, but I wouldn't leave it too late in the season. The road is challenging now. If it's slick, you would stand a very good chance of going over the edge. It was tight for us in several places. Not insane difficult, but technically challenging.
__________________ "L'audace, L'audace, Toujours l'audace!"
THE SCORPION véhicule tout terrain scorpion
скорпион сервисное транспортное средство
โตโยต้า จัตุรงค์ ยาง ล้อเลื่อน แมงป่อง
vier Radantrieb vom Straßenfahrzeug Skorpion
automóvil cuatro rueda Escorpión
蠍子, 豐田越野汽車
Нэвтрүүлэгч хилэнцэт хорхой
macchina fuoristrada lo Scorpione
Even though you say A/T's are not suited for the run, what do you think performed better? The Nitto's or BFG's?
AT's are fine, just not optimal in this application. In this case Dune Grapplers might have been better still. No 2WD FJ's on that trail.
My Nitto's are 12.5 inches wide and his size is closer to stock, so it's not as you can compare them. He went everywhere I did. BFG makes a great tire.
__________________ "L'audace, L'audace, Toujours l'audace!"
THE SCORPION véhicule tout terrain scorpion
скорпион сервисное транспортное средство
โตโยต้า จัตุรงค์ ยาง ล้อเลื่อน แมงป่อง
vier Radantrieb vom Straßenfahrzeug Skorpion
automóvil cuatro rueda Escorpión
蠍子, 豐田越野汽車
Нэвтрүүлэгч хилэнцэт хорхой
macchina fuoristrada lo Scorpione
Did you guys get to that gold mine place you were talking about in the other thread (the one that MoabRat was going to meet you at)?
When you first said the AT weren't that good I was wondering what you would like, as AT's are normally much better for sand then a more aggressive tire. I forgot all about the Dune Grappler's it does have the market in the sand. Not sure if i would run that tire if I did anything other then sand though.
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