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Old 11-15-2007, 03:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th

San Fernando Valley and Santa Clarita Valley Cruiser owners are getting together at Rowher Flat OHV, January 19th.

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11:00AM Bring your lunch to Staging Area 1 and check out the rigs
12:30PM Hit the trail
3-4 hours to complete the trail

According to the map you can bail early by exiting at Bouquet Canyon Road. I will confirm this.

For more information, read websites below:

Angeles National Forest - Rowher Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) Use Area
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/angeles/maps...r_flat_ohv.pdf
Rowher Flat OHV Area Information Maps Pictures
Rowher Flat OHV Area - Dirtopia, the Off-Road Encyclopedia
http://www.bronco.tophersworld.com/i..._flats_map.jpg

YouTube of the area:





Past Thread:
Rowher Flat trail

Other forums:
Rowher Flats - Lookout Trail - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

Interested in going on this trail, Jan 19th:
alans80
Blue Tonka
burbankfj
CADavebert
cruiserlarry
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pokerDawg
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th

Can't wait! Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, just checked the forums.

I can make it at any time no matter how early. I live about 10 minutes from Rowher!
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th

Marked it on the calendar.
You FJC guys wont miss me - Ill be driving a white elephant.
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Re: Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th

I am just wondering how is the trail. According to the 4x4 book, it is rated "HARD", anyone knows how it actually is..
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th

I have heard that the first part is the hardest part...after that its smooth sailin. I haven't done the trail before though, but looking at your avatar, it looks like you'll be fine!
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Re: Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th

Some on the list have already done this trail but I'll prerun the place before the 19th. Matt, I'll let you know when I find a free Saturday (or Sun) morning.

CADavebert who did this fairly recently with another FJ group mentioned it was ok and there are bypasses.

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I went to Rowher Flats this past summer in a stock rig, and had no problem getting around. I think there was one area that I took the easy route, and that was just because of ground clearance issues, and a lack of any sliders or skids on my rig.
Also in my research, I discovered our FJ80 friend frequents the area and enjoys the trail avoiding difficult climbs when alone

We will be good.
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Re: Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th

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Also in my research, I discovered our FJ80 friend frequents the area and enjoys the trail avoiding difficult climbs when alone

We will be good.
pokerDawg, Im going to enjoy meeting you.
Its just my practice to never go alone if I dont have too - for safety since Im still new at this. hehehe

As for the trail, I just ran Rowher with a Ventura TLCA club a couple months ago. Our group comprised of 2 Tacomas (both unlocked), 1 2nd Gen SASed rear locked 4Runner, 1 Isuzu Trooper unlocked, and me (F and R lockers).

The only "hard" part was the first climb to the midway point of the Bouquet side hill - because of one large rut with some off camber action.
After the mid point is one steep hill - no problem going up for an FJC since I saw a Disco II do it after turning back seeing the "hard" part of the hill going down.

Other than that all the hills even the difficult ones can be done by a stock FJCruiser with Atrac.


The way I saw it after the run was good clearance (if stock - good lines or good spotting) would be good on the "hard" side because of the ruts and some off camber. You can pretty much get away without sliders if you have the above.

Sliders almost guarantee no lower rocker damage unless you want too.

Theres also a bypass to this hill on the Bouquet side.

The run is definitely doable with a stocker.


1st pic. This area (where the Isuzu Trooper is at) would be the hardest part of the hill. Stamp date wrong.
2nd pic. This was me getting over the rut (where the Isuzu was in the 1st pic) with the steering wheel pointed straight ahead - got off camber. Looks scarier than it is with the shadow effect.
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Re: Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th

whoa that looks harry!! I think CA might be speaking of rolling around the different areas of Rowher, but not the Rowher trail. Rowher has many different places to go, yet there is only ONE rowher trail, which is the one Alans is talking about. You can poke around easy all day long on a stock rig.

Haven't tried Rowher trail yet though, after seeing 3 4 runners pulling a flipped 4 runner from that trail, I was a little scared to try it out...

Don't mean to scare anyone, Probably just bad judgement.

The part in the second pic looks insane!
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Re: Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th

Even if you skipped that Bouquet side, everybody should have fun with the other hill climbs and like I said even the most steep ones - with level headed judgement of course.

Rowher trails reputation is really that hill climb. And that is why I never do that hill alone.

Hey Blue Tonka - I still havent spotted your rig and you live in the area! I see Cruiserlarrys rig at least once a month.
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Re: Rowher Flat OHV, CA - January 19th



Thanks for all the insight. Man, I can't wait!

I think I'll get there earlier than 11AM just for the hell of it
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