Re: Electric Hedge Trimmers Work In Inboard Ac Outlet
I'm hoping that my electric shovel will work when plugged in the back outlet, that way I can clear all of the rocks out of the way so they don't scratch the underside of my truck.
Re: Electric Hedge Trimmers Work In Inboard Ac Outlet
I sense you do not see it
trail maintenece, and adopt a trail programs work hand in hand with the governing authority, BLM, NFS. and send in a schedule and inventory of work proposed to get approved. they also are given work schedules that need to be done to keep their trail. They are fiercely proud of theose trails and want to keep them
I DO KNOW HOW THESE THINGS WORK
do you think that I sit around and play games if I am this adiment about Tread Lightly
I am a member of 2 Adopt A Trail groups, and want to form another.
do not call me a genius in a snide way like that
you are only proving you are part of the problem
a simple backing down, and accepting what is correct would prove you are intellegent enough to learn.
now calm down
I will let you post whatever reply you want, futher argueing proves nothing.
the goal here is to keep trails open
either you accept the proper way
or you do not
part of the problem
or part of the solution
Re: Electric Hedge Trimmers Work In Inboard Ac Outlet
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Vansmack previously said:
I'm hoping that my electric shovel will work when plugged in the back outlet, that way I can clear all of the rocks out of the way so they don't scratch the underside of my truck.
Re: Electric Hedge Trimmers Work In Inboard Ac Outlet
While I grew up in an area where you HAD to carry around a chainsaw to clear the road to get to work, I cringe at the thought of hearing someone fire up a hedger, weed whacker, or whatever in the country. scratches go without saying...I can't imagine how many hours it would take to stop the vehicle, get out, do some trimming, pack back up, drive 20 feet and repeat. Actually, there are some places I'm pretty DAMN sure I can't stop since losing momentum would be a bad thing. Accept the scratches as the price you pay to wheel!
Although I would think the idea handy for someone's ranch...
Re: Electric Hedge Trimmers Work In Inboard Ac Outlet
Having cleared MTB trails after hurricanes, the general rule was that anything that can knock you off the bike has to go. Otherwise you had to suck it up and bounce, climb, or scrape through it.
I have the opposite view on off road vehicle trails.
If you keep clearing the damned things, you just wind up with eroded dirt roads through the woods, and I have to agree with highbeams--you just DESTROY them.
Take the scratches. They're a sign you're a real off-roader.
Re: Electric Hedge Trimmers Work In Inboard Ac Outlet
If the land managers want to crucify a guy who cuts the limb out of the way within the legal trail envelope...why in the heck would they or the off-road clubs imagine that this same person would ever get very darn enthused about becoming involved in the far more serious issues impacting the ground?
I understand the concern regarding out-of-control clear-cutting and which way the width envelope should be alternating back and forth to conform to the lay of the land/obstacles....yet (again) why is that limb there in the first place?
If it's dead fall or weather-related ...why wait for the trail crew?
If it's new growth of the type that folks here claim the greenies get all worked up about...then why in the heck was it not taken care of when the land manager released the grant money upon physical approval of the work done?
Do some areas of this country have Miracle-Gro like soil that allows this much growth between inspections(?)...and if so...why in the heck wouldn't education of users concerning hacking within the obvious envelope already created....go far in reducing the costs to maintain same in the first place?
I'm getting the feeling that a lot of the land around this country is being enjoyed by a lot of people who aren't paying a darn thing or very little to maintain/fix/restore what they obviously impact....and that there is a significant number within even the good off-road clubs who would just as soon keep it that way.
We either need to get a serious attitude about pay-to-play and the true cost of wheelin' (I can guarantee you that a privitized program partnered with volunteers would not only efficiently adress pesky limbs; but properly assess/maintain any trail until they didn't and were kicked out)...or remain fated to arguing amongst ourselves over how much damage a hedge trimmer can do while the ground below looks like a crime scene from the German blitzkrieg.
I'd like to support a lot of these off-road clubs who are right now making a difference...yet I hear very little talk of how the next generation will fill their honorable shoes with the increased numbers of volunteers on the ground needed or the plan that they have in place should this not necessarily happen.(I'd settle for even witnessing the first nationwide "pay-to-play" campaign that shamed the majority of this dis-jointed community into either one camp or the other).
Our last funding proposal here in Michigan that included all forms of orv recreation; asked for $25 year from 200,000 users for over 3,000 miles of trail. The clubs unanimously agreed that instead of one dollar out of the present $16.25 taken out for subsidized training (we've evidently got a lot of 'destitute' parents up here)...and that tripling the amount taken out of the increased $25 figure for 'youth training'...would have absolutely no adverse effect on the other programs funded and that all percentages would remain the same! (nobody said word one; yet now we are saddled with 750 more miles coming down the pipe that very few in this state know a darn thing about either).
Again, I've probably joined/quit more orv clubs than most....yet I've failed to see where many of them were as honest with themselves...as the environmentalists were as persuasive or passionate in regards to the areas that we certainly impact.
Last edited by Kzoocruiser : 06-13-2006 at 07:15 AM.
Re: Electric Hedge Trimmers Work In Inboard Ac Outlet
Quote:
highbeams previously said:
I sense you do not see it
trail maintenece, and adopt a trail programs work hand in hand with the governing authority, BLM, NFS. and send in a schedule and inventory of work proposed to get approved. they also are given work schedules that need to be done to keep their trail. They are fiercely proud of theose trails and want to keep them
I DO KNOW HOW THESE THINGS WORK
do you think that I sit around and play games if I am this adiment about Tread Lightly
I am a member of 2 Adopt A Trail groups, and want to form another.
do not call me a genius in a snide way like that
you are only proving you are part of the problem
a simple backing down, and accepting what is correct would prove you are intellegent enough to learn.
now calm down
I will let you post whatever reply you want, futher argueing proves nothing.
the goal here is to keep trails open
either you accept the proper way
or you do not
part of the problem
or part of the solution
Tread Lightly
Because something is "proper" in your mind doesn't make it fact, law of the land, common sense, or even the right thing to do.
By the way, I only called you genius because you pulled out the first 2 insults and I held my words on the first.
As far as intelligence, I'd compare I.Q., education, income, portfolio, net worth and common sense with you any day of the week. What? Don't like the truth? Maybe you shouldn't be so insulting, you could have made your point without the insults, your point would have gone a world further with me and all that have read this thread sounding a positive voice for your cause and something someone might be able look up to, but you didn't, really displaying the type of person that you are, your lack of intelligence, people skills and education, your point is lost in the childishness of your insults.
When I was out with the BLM a few years ago, they clear cut 2 to 3 feet FROM the trail on each side when they were in charge on an 8 mile trail, stating that the clean up needed to be good for 5 to 7 years, I would never make a call or do something as drastic, they took out hundreds of shrubs, bushes and a couple of small trees. Now I understand your comprehension skills are minimal, so I'll use little words from here out just for you. I have never negatively impacted a trail and never will.
I never back down, especially when I know that I'm right, you have your beliefs and I mine, they conflict, if you can be a man and drop the insults we can have an adult discussion. I watch the same tactics in politics, when someone can't make an argument strong enough to make their point, they always go to insults, where as I only insult when insulted, purely reactive. I'm sorry that you live in a state where they'll use any excuse to close trails, look at what they had done with Glamis and Buttercup, shut down the whole area because some wild weed was growing there in the sand stating it was endangered, so maybe in Cali you need to walk on eggshells, in AZ it's quite a different atmosphere politically when it comes to these issues.......
I am done with the insults if you are, Adult discussion now?
Have a great day.
Geesh, And this whole thing started over a guy posting that an electric hedge trimmer will work using the onboard 110V outlet.
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