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Old 11-28-2012, 11:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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it would seem like a throw out bearing ball bearing maybe shot out the fork boot??? i've never been under a manual FJ before so???
Having no idea about anything you just said, I am impressed with your e-diagnosis and will go with that

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Old 11-28-2012, 11:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hey dude....it's great here....like FJ heaven trails everywhere 30 minutes from the house.....lots of wide open space!! Glad i got to roll with you guys before i moved....need to get a Fuzzydud order in before too long!! hope you get that clutch fixed up and rollen quickly!! weird that i had transmission type issues today too.....
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Hey Steevo, Sounds like you got it covered in SJ but if you need a hand or a ride etc let me know. I'll even put my passenger seat in for you.
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About an hour ago my clutch just kinda gernaded out of nowhere. There was some throwout bearing wine. Then crunch (could feel in the pedal) and the clutch stopped working and the pedal is on the floor. I put it in second and turned it over to move it about 5 feet forward (Screech clunk clunk) and I hear something hit the pavement and I see a 1/4" bearing rolling down the pavement. It was very hot! No idea where that belonged.




Does anyone have any idea where that bearing came from?

How many miles on the tranny? Hearing metal hit the ground under your FJ has to be pucker factor 10!

Keep us updated OP
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Hey Steevo, Sounds like you got it covered in SJ but if you need a hand or a ride etc let me know. I'll even put my passenger seat in for you.
I feel entitled that you would install your passenger seat. "Wow!" Check out the picture in my signature. I caught a fish with that thing I hacked together. Lets get a round of golf in soon. Thank you for the "assist" offer! Wi-5

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How many miles on the tranny? Hearing metal hit the ground under your FJ has to be pucker factor 10!

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My transmission has 164K miles on it. In those miles I have had the "throwout bearing whine" come and go about half a dozen times. Time for a freshie! The rolling bearing was the icing on the "Pucker Factor 10" compaired to the sounds coming from inside of the housing. I wish I had a video of me openning the door and hanging my head out and under my rig then a "ZOOM-shot" into that bearing bouncing then rolling down the driveway.

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About an hour ago my clutch just kinda gernaded out of nowhere. There was some throwout bearing wine. Then crunch (could feel in the pedal) and the clutch stopped working and the pedal is on the floor. I put it in second and turned it over to move it about 5 feet forward (Screech clunk clunk) and I hear something hit the pavement and I see a 1/4" bearing rolling down the pavement. It was very hot!

Does anyone have any idea where that bearing came from?
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The only thing under there with ball bearings in it would be the clutch release bearing (aka : throw-out bearing). It would appear that you have suffered a catastrophic failure of that bearing. Actually this is the first time I've heard of this bearing failing in such a way. What probably happened was the inner or outer race of the bearing cracked and began to wobble. That would have been the occasional noise you heard (often described as a chirping noise). Finally the bearing was so worn and overheated it blew apart. Try to take some pics of the parts involved. Have the mechanic examine the "quill" on the bellhousing for damage. In this case it may be extensive.

Here's a long running thread on this situation (kind of long but a lot of info/tech and pics from some DIY projects) :

Throwout Bearing Trouble on 6 speeds......

It should be interesting to see your pics !

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sorry to hear cowboy, hope you get it all sorted out!
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Roadrunner- I will mention the "quill housing" to Doug. My truck had already landed at his shop and I am heading down there on Saturday.

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fjessence- It is getting worked on by a "Team Fuzzy Duds" mechanic!
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That this kind of thing can happen always portends clouds of doom for the 6M/T community!

And with all the implications from Toyota's band - aid approach to the Throwout Bearing issue, this just makes things much worse...
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Roadrunner- I will mention the "quill housing" to Doug. My truck had already landed at his shop and I am heading down there on Saturday.
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The Toyota service manual refers to the part as the transmission input sleeve (aka : quill). I've loaded a pic of what this piece would look like with the wear damage. Your's will likely look like this (or maybe worse considering what happened) :



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