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Old 03-15-2008, 06:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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'08 Brick 5AT 4X4...Help Me Out

My FJ is no longer for sale/taking over payments!!!

I have found a great job lead, and I will more than likely be starting within the second to third week of April!!! So...NO MORE NEED TO GET RID OF MY RIG!!! WooHoo I'm saved!!!

Thanks again for all of the support with my situation. You guys are all awesome here you really are...I'm hoping to hit the trails with you all soon enough

HAPPY WHEELING!!!

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Old 03-15-2008, 09:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: '08 Brick 5AT 4X4...Help Me Out

you are going to pay over 45,000 for this! Forgive me, but I know you need to sell it, but clearly you are going to have to sell it strait out and get out of the loan. I dont think anyone would take over the loan.
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: '08 Brick 5AT 4X4...Help Me Out

I was kinda thinking the same thing. Find out what your payoff is. That will be a much easier sell. Good luck on your sale and best wishes for your family and financial situation.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: '08 Brick 5AT 4X4...Help Me Out

Sorry to hear about your troubles! Some SSI advice: the ex got full disabilty after being denied once and then waiting 2 years. She was given the name of a good SSI lawyer and they fought for it and won. She got a lump sum for the 2 years she waited to be approved.

Hang in there and make sure you have a good SSI lawyer to fight for you!

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Re: '08 Brick 5AT 4X4...Help Me Out

Can't help with the FJ, but, can help with the SSI info.

The fees may be covered by SSA if you win your appeal, teh layer will tell you if you have a shotat the appeal. The problem with the appeals process is that there are over thousands of cases pending so it won't be a quick resolution. Yes if win your appeal you will get back benefits.

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Old 03-16-2008, 06:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: '08 Brick 5AT 4X4...Help Me Out

Thanks so much for the replies everyone. And thank you for the SSI advice. It's been a real pain (pardon the pun) to get the ball rolling and going through the motions with lawyers again. I just got done settling my workers comp claim last October, and I'm right back into the thick of things.

As for the price and payoff of my FJ. I will be paying a lot for it once my term is up, however, the new owner won't have to. Once it's refinanced into the new owners name, the payment amount, interest rate and length of the term changes. It's really like purchasing it from a dealership, but without any of the hassles, markups, and unnecessary fees. From what I've been told, the entire process is really easy to get done. The current MSRP of my exact FJ configured the way mine is with my current mileage $29,224...My payoff is right around that figure, and my FJ has lower miles than any dealership demo they retail as brand new.

Not only that, but buying my rig vs a dealer demo or a used one eliminates the possibility of having multiple dealership employees and customers "driving it like they stole it" with test drives and dealer errands. My FJ had the white protective covers taken off of it, and given it's PDI after I test drove it. It had 2 miles on it (3 miles by the time I got it off the lot that night).
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Re: '08 Brick 5AT 4X4...Help Me Out

are you sure you meant to type 84 month loan and not 48 month?

Truck looks to be worth about $27-28k... with 4,000 miles on it... hopefully your real payoff is close to something like that...

but you really need to find out and name a price b/c payment amounts and very long 7 year terms aren't going to get people around here, excited about assuming such an expensive long term obligation...
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bump. but i really dislike those geweke bastards
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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are you sure you meant to type 84 month loan and not 48 month?

Truck looks to be worth about $27-28k... with 4,000 miles on it... hopefully your real payoff is close to something like that...

but you really need to find out and name a price b/c payment amounts and very long 7 year terms aren't going to get people around here, excited about assuming such an expensive long term obligation...
The thing to remember is that my term and my payoff aren't going to be exactly what the new owner will be paying. The FJ has to be refinanced in the new owners name and the contract redone at their credit rating. The credit union is going to consider my FJ as a new vehicle, and offering the new owner a starting APR of only 6.99%. That's a huge benefit to the new owner. The original Factory Warranty is also transferred over. That's how "taking over payments" works. I have 7.9% APR with zero money down, and chose the long term to keep my payments as low as possible. The new owner can get lower payments than me if they get a lower APR approval rating, and can select the term they want up to 84 months like me if they choose. They can also choose to put money down to keep things lower as well.

My payoff at the end of April will be about $32,000...The Edmunds True Market Value lists my rig at exactly $28,554 as is with this many miles configured with the options mine has. California state sales tax comes out to $2,355 at that price. Tack on the dealer destination charges of $685 that I had to have added into my contract as well as the license, registration and dealer prep fees and the price of my FJ is right where the current market MSRP & said options and fees would be if you were to get it used from a dealership. My current payoff just so happens to be right about this figure. My credit Union already advised me that the new owner doesn't have to pay these fees again as they are already in the contract and simply transfered into their name once approved to take over liability and ownership.

As far as the cost goes; If you were to buy my FJ new at a dealership, they would likely have it listed at $27,000 and up. We all know that it's like pulling teeth to get one lower than MSRP and that dealers regularly have mark-ups. In fact, there are a lot of members here on the boards who paid over MSRP to get the rig they wanted (new or used). Even being used, they would resell my rig at 26-27 thousand I guarantee it. Then as is always the case, they will re-add the cost of the options packages, those destination, license & registration, document and prep fees and bang you're right where I am now all over again.

Anyone interested in my FJ will be at an advantage because they can get the color and options they want without having to visit dealerships and endure being four squared and haggled with to get it. Also, unlike a used dealership vehicle, my FJ is considered new by my credit union, so the original factory warranty is transferred and you can qualify for a new car APR. A used Toyota like any used vehicle would carry a much higher APR starting point and only has the certified used warranty. My FJ also comes with the piece of mind that it had the factory safety film over it and had yet to be PDI'd when I test drove it with only 2 miles on it. I'm the only person to own and ever operate my rig and it has never been off roaded. Buy a used vehicle or dealership demo and you have no idea who and how many have driven it and to what extent.

Check out this used listing for example. http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true It's an '07 with the now obsolete popular equipment package, and BFG All-Terrains and the TRD wheels. This listing price doesn't include taxes and fees. When the buyer pays them, it will cost more than my current payoff amount.

I can't afford to give away my FJ for a song, but no one will be paying more than what the current market says it's worth and total cost the average dealership would charge you. Oh and like any dealership I'm also going to detail it myself inside and out, top to bottom, and have a full tank in it as well

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I'm sorry for getting off on a tangent here, and RocketJohn it's in no way directed at you or was it typed out in any mean spirited manner whatsoever. I just feel like I had to explain my situation a lot better and your post was the perfect intro to what I needed to say so I quoted you And I thank you for being awesome and putting your inquiry here on the boards. I only wish those others who chose to flame my personal email box would have done the same.
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Re: '08 Brick 5AT 4X4...Help Me Out

Sorry to hear your sit. Hopefully things will get better. Good Luck and stay with the fight!
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