[Mr. Mac]

Hello - I was about to purchase Method Double Standards for my 2012 FJ and in the process of doing my homework stumbled across this thread.

A few questions for the experienced:

Does anyone happen to know if this shorter studs/thicker wheel issue discussed here exists with all FJs or just certain years. Is the 2012 affected?

Is the issue that the Double Standard can't be safely mounted or that it can't be mounted at all without mods to studs? What I'm think here is that if they can mount, just not 100% safe then I could probably carefully drive my FJ with the Methods on down to my local 4x4 guy to do the stud mods.

I was planning on having Methods mounted and balanced to tires by an out of state dealer and shipped to me ready to install, but after reading this I want to be clear about what it is I might be getting myself into.

Thanks in advance for any info that can be provided. Mac

 

[fjwheeling]

Well im glad I read and found this one! My studs are short ..Arp studs on my mod list...ill have to count my thread turns but I think I should have around 6 I hope..
Has any one tried reusing stock lug nuts with mine 13' i have a flange and washer lug nuts no taper..

 

[Dennx]

I'll be getting the new Method Mesh wheels soon. Instead of cutting down the longer ARP studs, can't I just use longer lug nuts like these I found on ebay? They are 50mm (approx. 2") extended size mag lug nuts similar to the oem nuts.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...m+toyota+oem+lug+nuts&_nkw=Extended+50mm+toyota+oem+lug+nuts&_sacat=0&_from=R40

 

[Briareos]

I'll be getting the new Method Mesh wheels soon. Instead of cutting down the longer ARP studs, can't I just use longer lug nuts like these I found on ebay? They are 50mm (approx. 2") extended size mag lug nuts similar to the oem nuts.

Extended 50mm toyota oem lug nuts | eBay

Hi,

I used the ARP studs just because I wanted the strongest possible due to running 35's. Probably overkill. Most folks have experienced how easily the stock studs tend to break. Aftermarket studs, such as Dorman, are probably fine. The stock studs are 40mm ( 1.57") long from the end of the stud to the flat of the flange. Aftermarket studs 50mm long should be fine with standard length lug nuts.

On the other hand, if you want to use the ARP studs without cutting them, the longer lug nuts would probably work as well. I ended up cutting off about 1/2" of the ARP studs, but uncut, they are ~2.6" long. After being installed in the hub, and passing through the thickness of the rotor, you are still looking at 1.89" of stud sticking out before you put the wheel on. Just make sure the extended length lug nuts can accomodate 1.8" of stud internally.

If you plan to run wheel locks, make sure you can get a deep set of those as well.

You should also double check the wheels. I think the Methods use an acorn-seat lug nut, not the standard shank style toyota uses...

Good Luck,
Shawn

 

[Dennx]

I think I'm going with these 50mm studs.

10x Ichiba 50mm 12x1 5 M12 P1 5 14 2mm Extend Long Wheel Rim Stud Toyota Lexus A | eBay

 

[foxjuliett]

Keep us posted if you do!!

I think I'm going with these 50mm studs.

10x Ichiba 50mm 12x1 5 M12 P1 5 14 2mm Extend Long Wheel Rim Stud Toyota Lexus A | eBay

 

[Chris Delancy]

They're going to be too long to run closed lugs and the length makes for a difficult time getting the wheel on.

You'll want to measure and shorten them before pressing in the hub. Cutting them after is possible, but it'll corrode and it's difficult to get a straight cut with them installed.

 

[iwashmycar]

Or just run open-end lugs and be done with it no? Would be a little janky, but you could probably even just cut the tops off the OEM lugs.

 

[MagsCruiser]

One thing to add about lug studs. If you apply anti-seize or any other lube reduce the torque value by 22% if you torque to factory or wheel manufacturers' specs.

 

[FNQFJ]

I recently fitted a set of method double standard rims and used these extended thread lug nuts. The supplied nuts only gave me 6 turns on the front studs and 9 on the rear studs. These lug nuts gave me 10 turns on the front and over 13 on the rear. May be another option besides replacing the studs.
Detroit Wheels 5395-5 Mr. Lugnut Lug Nuts - Free Shipping on All Orders @ JEGS

 

[Blown383]

How did these studs work out for you? I went with the Dorman studs through Autozone which offered a lifetime warranty.

-B

I think I'm going with these 50mm studs.

10x Ichiba 50mm 12x1 5 M12 P1 5 14 2mm Extend Long Wheel Rim Stud Toyota Lexus A | eBay

 

[AbdallahWadia]

So if i get rear wheel studs and install them in the front and use the methods i should be fine right?

 

[Blown383]

Digging this old post up. If you haven't spent the money on the ARP's yet I'd HIGHLY recommend that you do so ASAP! I had the wheel studs fail twice on my FJ and the first time it caused $3,500 in damage and this time around it destroyed my wheel bearing.

From left to right: 1) ARP 2) One of 2 damaged Ichiba studs that were holding the wheel on to the car 3) Ichiba stud that had the shaft shear off 4) OEM. I'd avoid the Ichiba studs at ALL costs! There is a SIGNIFICANT difference in quality of the ARPs compared to the other studs.

The easiest way to install them is by using a press with the rotor to hold the hub in place.

 

[carmochuck]

Hi, I used the ARP studs just because I wanted the strongest possible due to running 35's. Probably overkill. Most folks have experienced how easily the stock studs tend to break. Aftermarket studs, such as Dorman, are probably fine. The stock studs are 40mm ( 1.57") long from the end of the stud to the flat of the flange. Aftermarket studs 50mm long should be fine with standard length lug nuts. On the other hand, if you want to use the ARP studs without cutting them, the longer lug nuts would probably work as well. I ended up cutting off about 1/2" of the ARP studs, but uncut, they are ~2.6" long. After being installed in the hub, and passing through the thickness of the rotor, you are still looking at 1.89" of stud sticking out before you put the wheel on. Just make sure the extended length lug nuts can accomodate 1.8" of stud internally. If you plan to run wheel locks, make sure you can get a deep set of those as well. You should also double check the wheels. I think the Methods use an acorn-seat lug nut, not the standard shank style toyota uses... Good Luck, Shawn

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