The thread on fitting 33s with stock suspension: Re: will 285/70-17 tires fit?
The first forum member to try it was GTA_XAN and he posted detailed close-ups of the frame bracket area that could rub. Also go to toyota.com, click on "FJ bulletin" and look at the frame diagrams to see the bracket (covered by soft plastic mudflap) causing concern. No problems reported with 285/70X17s on street, just 3/4 turn full compression maybe rubs.
so is it a problem or not. You said no rubbing right? even at full lock. What about when you turn the wheel all the way right/left. Thought I read somewhere that there is a problem rubbing when you go full left?
Anyways, your rig looks great and thanks a million for posting those pics.
So if no lift is required for 33", then will 35" fit with a 3" lift? (revtek, i'm thinking, but it shouldn't matter), I lift is a lift to a certain extent. Thanks
Tranman,
Sound like the immediate upgrade to 33's is still being debated. I'm not gonna take any chances and will take the rig to the suspension shop before I go to the tire shop.
On the suspension front, not all suspension kits are equal. There is a lot of debate as to which system works best. But for bang for the buck I'm gonna stick with Old Man Emu. The comments seem to be consistant and the OME company has been dealing with land cruisers for generations. It's my safe bet. Good luck on selecting your own. Check out this thread for more info:
That's good to know. I think there's a lot of conflicting info out there. I've been reading where you can't put them on. At least this is proof that you can - although it looks pretty tight in that front wheel well.
Is there a thread that mentions the stock tires as 31"??
I think 33" or 285's will rub when cycling the suspension,as my BFG 265-70-17's are so close when turned under suspension movement,there isn't 1" of clearance between the tire and the body mount at the rear of the inner fender. On the street it might be ok,but the fj isn't made for the street,it's all about the dirt.
Sound like the immediate upgrade to 33's is still being debated. I'm not gonna take any chances and will take the rig to the suspension shop before I go to the tire shop.
On the suspension front, not all suspension kits are equal. There is a lot of debate as to which system works best. But for bang for the buck I'm gonna stick with Old Man Emu. The comments seem to be consistant and the OME company has been dealing with land cruisers for generations. It's my safe bet. Good luck on selecting your own. Check out this thread for more info:
So the ultimate plan is to upgrade to 33"'s immediately. Then get the OME suspension lift up front to level the vehicle out. Are they adjustable? If so, maybe 2" lift. Then wait for the rear susp lift. Once that is out then the full 3" upfront and 2" in back.
So how many would want to fit 35" tires on a 3" lifted FJ. If this can be done, then I guess I would wait for the OME front and rear kit, then do 35".
But if that is not the way to go (b/c of ride quality or MPG concerns) and you're OK with the 33" tires and full lift look, then proceed with the OME front lift and 33" tires. What do you guys think?
Anyone with OME experience. Is it like the Donahoes where the susp is fully adjustable 1"-3". If not then my plans are sh*t and back to square one. I wouldn't want to put a 3" lift upfront now and nothing in the back and have my FJ not level (& look conceited).
The thread on fitting 33s with stock suspension: Re: will 285/70-17 tires fit?
The first forum member to try it was GTA_XAN and he posted detailed close-ups of the frame bracket area that could rub. Also go to toyota.com, click on "FJ bulletin" and look at the frame diagrams to see the bracket (covered by soft plastic mudflap) causing concern. No problems reported with 285/70X17s on street, just 3/4 turn full compression maybe rubs.
Looking at the suspension geometry logically, with what we know by looking at our own FJs, if there is no rubbing in normal driving/steering, then there will be none (at least near that body mount) under any sort of compression/extension of the front suspension. It already resides at the horizontal quadrant of the tire, and the suspension does NOT move forward and backward...unless you bend the hell out of the upper/lower control arms. In that instance, rubbing is the least of your problems!!! The only other way, might be if you get a WHOLE LOT of bulge in your tire due to loading too much weight on it during 3/4 turning. Might be a good idea to NOT get the retarded C-ply bfg 33/17s and instead shoot for some D or E rated bfg 33/16s. Since this rubbing area coincides with the shoulder block, shoot for an aggressive AT tire with scalloped shoulders (like the bfg A/T or M/T or goodyear MTRs). I personally am looking into the 255/85/16-D BFG M/Ts. This will really be pushing the clearance (listed as 33.2" O.D.), but I am hoping the tire will come in a tad shy (closer to 33" even) from being on a 7.5" wheel rather than the listed 7.0" they used for O.D. measurements. The 10mm decreased width should assure me good clearance on the shoulders though!
Now, there may be rubbing at the top vertical quadrant of the tire, but that WILL require some compressing to determine. Based on what I have seen in the early pictures/videos of stock FJs wheeling on 265/75/16s, the rear may be of concern vertically, as I have pictures of my own FJ with the stock 265/70/17s at full articulation and the tires is damn close to the fender well plastic.
Last edited by RalphWiggum : 04-23-2006 at 07:17 PM.
What if you deflate the tire pressure for off-road assistance, will that make it more likely to rub?
Most likely not. While the tire will "pooch" out at the contact with the ground, the rest of the tire will retain mostly normal shape. But, as close as the clearance is, there could always be an akward split-second of rubbing with low-pressure. Just not likely.
BTW, people, stay away from the C-rated BFG 17s if you are serious about mild deflation and running in sand/mud. An article I read on a group in a magazine making a honda ridgeline (i know; total heressy!!!) run off-road stated several complaints of the rim striking the sidewall and shredding the tire because the sidewalls just were not stiff/strong enough. They were not aired down much at all!!! WARNING!!! Even they whined that they should have mounted 16s and run D-rated BFGs instead!
Re: Anyone put 33's yet? What's stock?
The only other way, might be if you get a WHOLE LOT of bulge in your tire due to loading too much weight on it during 3/4 turning. Might be a good idea to NOT get the retarded C-ply bfg 33/17s and instead shoot for some D or E rated bfg 33/16s. Since this rubbing area coincides with the shoulder block, shoot for an aggressive AT tire with scalloped shoulders (like the bfg A/T or M/T or goodyear MTRs). I personally am looking into the 255/85/16-D BFG M/Ts. This will really be pushing the clearance (listed as 33.2" O.D.), but I am hoping the tire will come in a tad shy (closer to 33" even) from being on a 7.5" wheel rather than the listed 7.0" they used for O.D. measurements. The 10mm decreased width should assure me good clearance on the shoulders though! 
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