Steelies lugs

rutherk1 · 10-23-2007, 07:42 AM

Greetings.

I just put OEM steelies on my truck. Can someone verify which lug nuts I need.

12mm x 1.5? Is that all I need to tell the autoparts store?

The alloy nuts fit and seem to be safe but they stick out and the washers obviously rattle when I shut the door.

Thanks!

**1911** · 10-23-2007, 08:16 AM

DO NOT use the flat washer lug nuts from your alloy wheels, they are NOT safe. You need lug nuts with a tapered seat for your steel wheels. 12mm x1.5 is the right thread pitch though.

rutherk1 · 10-23-2007, 08:31 AM

Are we sure its 12mm x1.5? I saw one the forum 12mm x 2.0 as well.

Just making sure. Looks like I will be making a trip to Napa at lunch.

Thanks!

**1911** · 10-23-2007, 08:53 PM

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rutherk1 previously said:

Are we sure its 12mm x1.5? I saw one the forum 12mm x 2.0 as well.

Just making sure. Looks like I will be making a trip to Napa at lunch.

Thanks!

Yeah, I guarantee they are 12mm x 1.5.

rutherk1 · 10-24-2007, 07:32 AM

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1911 previously said:

Yeah, I guarantee they are 12mm x 1.5.

Cool. A stop at Napa got me going. I got a bunch of those acorn style open ended wheel nuts. The threads stick out the back. Looks pretty industrial with the steelies on there. They are heat tempered too. When pulling these other ones off they look like they have an external aluminum shell that bends easily. I didnt know car companies still did that... Weak.

Thanks for the help.

zelig2 · 10-24-2007, 02:48 PM

Give CruiserLarry a call and pick up some Gorilla locking lugs. They look better and help secure the wheels.

rutherk1 · 10-25-2007, 07:09 AM

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zelig2 previously said:

Give CruiserLarry a call and pick up some Gorilla locking lugs. They look better and help secure the wheels.

Cool. I was looking at the Gorillas. Which ones do I need? I am going to order them from summut because they are close by.

I dont want them to be colored (silver is fine) I know I need 12mmx1.5 but which ones specifically do I need from Gorilla?

Thanks!

jayman · 10-25-2007, 07:41 AM

Never run the factory lugs - meant for Toyota aluminum wheels - on steel rims. If you look closely at the steel rim, the bolt holes have a conical depression.

The Toyota lugnuts do NOT fit and WILL loosen up. You need an old fashioned conical-seat lugnut to ensure proper torque, and that the lugnut won't loosen up.

I got steel "universal fit" wheels with studded winter tires for my Prius, and aftermarket steel wheels with Toyo Open Country G-02 Plus studless winter tires, for my FJ. I was quite surprised that both vehicles use the same lugnut.

I got my lugnuts from NAPA here, according to the box they are:

M12-1.5 x 21mm

Part number #641-2042

For driving in winter, with road salt, the best way I have found to keep the steel rims from rusting is to spray a product like Fluid Film on the back and front side, before mounting.

I highly recommend the Toyo Open Country G-02 Plus as a winter tire. I only had mine on 2 weeks before Spring arrived, but on icy roads they really do work as advertised, without the studded tire noise.

Manhattan · 10-25-2007, 07:49 AM

And don't trust the dealership service department for advice on this topic. My FJ came with steel wheels - I brought the alloy wheels AND the correct lugs for the alloy wheels to the dealership for them to do the swap. They reused the lugs from the steel wheels.

Later, I told the service manager about this. His response: "How could it make a difference? They're both Toyota lug nuts". I had to teach him (based on info garnered from this site) how Toyota mounts an alloy wheel vs. a steel wheel. I went to Butler tire after that.

rutherk1 · 10-25-2007, 07:51 AM

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Manhattan previously said:

And don't trust the dealership service department for advice on this topic. My FJ came with steel wheels - I brought the alloy wheels AND the correct lugs for the alloy wheels to the dealership for them to do the swap. They reused the lugs from the steel wheels.

Later, I told the service manager about this. His response: "How could it make a difference? They're both Toyota lug nuts". I had to teach him (based on info garnered from this site) how Toyota mounts an alloy wheel vs. a steel wheel. I went to Butler tire after that.

Why would you take your truck to the dealership

I think I am going to get these

Gorilla Lug Nuts: GOR-41137 - summitracing.com

I have noticed there are 2 kinds of conical lug nuts in this size. Some have a taper and at the botton right before the conical part and some dont.