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Re: The first $2000

Good thread indeed!! I agree 100%, recovery gear and protection are very important. I wish I had the preverbial nickle for every time I have heard " I dont need a winch, if I get stuck you can pull me out" IMO if you go out on the trails without propery recovery gear you deserve what you get. I see plenty of people with no straps, no shackles, no hi lift (to jack or use as a winch) and no winch.

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Larry, this is a great post. Go Prepared! or don't go at all. It does cost extra money but in the long run you will be safer and be able to help yourself and a friend.

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Great post...but it left me w/ one question:

There's mud in Death Valley???
There is a LOT of mud in Death Valley. Most of it is alkaline. The Panamint Valley where STHARRIS bellied in is flat and the water is under the surface. You are driving along and SLOP! You're up to your axles.

Here are photos of running/sweet water from this past trip:


POKERDAWG photographing Saratoga Springs - an oasis in the middle of NOWHERE (literally)


Photo (courtesy of DOMINICG) of my rig running up Golar Canyon. The road is the river bed and the water pours from aquifer.


Another photo by DOMINIC G of my rig in Ballarat Canyon.

The canyons were either created by hydraulic action over aeons or through volcanism. In Death Valley there are both but the deep cuts are all stream beds and there is a lot of water in Death Valley, which creates water-related driving hazards that the uninitiated may not be prepared for. When you think about it, Death Valley is actually a series of valleys broken up by mountain ranges. It's hundreds of miles long and hundreds of miles wide with only a portion of it resting within the boundaries of the National Park.
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Thanks for the list Uphill!

I can attest to needing these components. I have everything in that list except the LCAs and #2. That's me in pic #1, and I was lucking that Uphill was there and had the necessary recovery gear. Hindsight being 20/20 you don't want to be lucky, you want to be prepared. You also don't want to be embarrassed when your asked to get out your shackles and strap so that someone can help YOU get out of a situation that YOU got yourself into . . . it's doubly worse when it's in front of Uphill

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I'm happy to know I have many of these items but I'm disappointed that I don't have all of these item.

I'm going to make a point in completing this list.
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Uphill, one comment/question on the list.
The LCA skids consume about 3/8" of space, and the washer on the OEM bolt does not come off. Consequently the bolt, which use to extend about 1/4" out of the nut is now about flush with the nut which kind of makes me uncomfortable. You had an aftermarket bolt that was longer, and greaseable. What were the names of these bolts and where do you get them?

CAUTION For anyone who gets these LCA skids (which I also endorse), I highly recommend you use an impact wrench (or find the proper torque setting) on that bolt. You do not want that nut to come off while you're driving. I had mine hand tightened, with as much mojo as I could, and one side was slightly loose by the end of the DV run.

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If you are going to get a Hi-Lift, do yourself and also buy the Wabfab adaptor so the Hi-Lift won't slip off when you're jacking it, damaging your rig, you or both. Hi-Lift (about) US$70.00 & Wabfab adaptor US$60.00
Did anyone else read through the whole post and notice this??

Great thread Larry. Good list of some important items. I think for down here where there are no rocks just mud and ruts and such, items 1 and 2 would be swapped for order of importance, but that is about it.

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what's scary is that one can do (and should) all these mods, and to the casual observor, it will still look like a stock vehicle...assuming nothing else has been done.
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Hey Larry,
Where are the above two pics from?

I'm heading out to CA to run John Bull the 17th....any chance this trail is nearby?

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Hey Larry,
Where are the above two pics from?

I'm heading out to CA to run John Bull the 17th....any chance this trail is nearby?

Sean

I believe that is dishpan creek??

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Recommended: MAN-A-FRE rear lower control arms with bushings. They're heavy duty (most unlikely to break), they are not adjustable because you don't need adjustable rear lower control arms (IMO) and MAF stands behind their products. US$299.00 for the rear lower control
arms.
Geez...I wish MAF would do a "stimulus package" group buy for this item.
Geez...I wish MAF would do a "stimulus package" group buy for this item.
Geez...I wish MAF would do a "stimulus package" group buy for this item.

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