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What rope did you use? Where did you get your FIDS.
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Well done Sarah,
Awesome work....
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Hi. It's been a while since I came here and was just browsing by. I had some pics saved away on this topic and so I thought I'd share.

I first came across soft shackles when I was a diver. They were useful for light duty applications and had the advantage of not banging around in a tool bag. When I saw them mentioned for offroad uses I was doubtful at first, but then again... I'm always doubtful at first. Nevertheless, I kinda like breaking stuff so I thought I'd give it a shot. Either way, I liked the idea of chucking some weight out of my under-seat bags.

This is 3/4" dyneema rope. You can get it in bulk made in China from a marine supply or pay 5x and get it from "Amsteel". It probably rolls off the same machine, either way.




It's a loose hollow 12 strand braid so it's nothing to run it back into itself in a loop. I don't recall if I used a makeshift fid. I might have taped a pencil onto the end the first time I did one. If you just stiffen the end with a few turns of tape it's probably enough.

You run it through itself and then come back out, then tie a monkey fist and you're done.





I don't know what the breaking strength actually is. As a rule of thumb, a knot has about 67% the strength of the line, but a tight bend can have less, and I have no idea what to say about a clusterific eye splice with the strands wrapping around themselves and taking asymmetric tension. Anyhow that's why I went with the obscene overkill rope size. Of the three I've made, I gave away 1, and I've used the other two on the end of my winch line. I've broken the winch line several times since then. I'm due for a new one actually. The shackles still look fine. They're at least 6 years old now.

What I like about them is they don't tighten up under load. Once the load is off, they just slide open. They work super awesome on cage bars too - something that metal shackles don't handle well.

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G'day All,
I use a variation of this method,
with a full bury thru both ends.... and a single loop to lock the knot.
Plenty of methods out there... find one that suits you....

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What rope did you use? Where did you get your FIDS.
I used 8mm Dyneema SK75. The fids are from Norway. Selma as.

I bought them from a UK chandlery. There are other versions available Nd these are a new aquisition for me, having worked with just a splicing needle and Swedish Fid for many years.
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Re: Soft Shackles - Make Your Own

Thank you @BellyDoc for your contribution. All very valuable info.

Thank you for adding in an alternative version. Again the use of soft shackles originates from marine applications, as does the use of synthetic winch lines.

The documented data shows that the end product has a substantially higher break load than the line itself.

I agree with the scepticism angle. I was about the first person in the UK to research and suggest the use of Dyneema rope for recovery winch applications. (Samson were starting to use it on sme marine applications). Having researched the rope characteristics against wire I worked with a rope manufactuter and a winch supplier and vehicle builder to test and document it. There were lots of sceptics...look where we are now.... i've been away from vehicle training and engineering for a few years so soft shackles haven't been on the radar until now. I've been splicing my own ropes for years so this was the next step.

Personally I do stick with rope from known manufacturers with test certificates supplied. I've tested to destruction both in the field and on rigs various different manufacturers, grades and types of rope and prefer to have a test cert.
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Just in case anyone else is interested in the fids...

This is what I've recently bought.

https://www.amazon.com/Ronstan-RF823...ords=selma+fid

(for once something that's half the price here )

But as already said you can do this and other splicing without these. For example you can fix a broken winch rope in the field with just a biro/pencil and a bit of tape. I've been splicing for years and never had these. But I have to say they are brilliant.
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Well don't I feel like a tool( or should I say, 'spanner' )..Zero's..I believe I owe you an apology for calling you a man..I seen Baz's post start with 'Well done Sarah' and felt a rush of embarrassment surge through me! I'm sorry that I didn't realize that.

Baz, thanks for being subtle about it my friend.


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