Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List - Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum
4x4 / Off-Road Tech This section contains all discussion related to taking the FJ Cruiser in Off-Road situations, 4x4 applications and any armor modifications.

 26Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-22-2017, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
4-Corners Moderator
 
FJX2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Cortez, CO or Provo, UT
Posts: 4,788
Blog Entries: 22
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 449 Post(s)
Garage
Lifetime Supporting Member
(Thread Starter)
Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

Lots of folks both here on the forums and on other FJ groups like on Facebook and such always seem to be asking the same question when it comes to modding their rigs, “WHERE DO I BEGIN?”

Usually these people are fairly new to the FJ Cruiser community or they are just now finally looking to upgrade their setups. Commonly these folks have pretty bone stock FJs or close to stock rigs and are just looking for honest direction of where they should start spending their money to make their FJ Cruiser more capable and protected for offroading. I typed up a general version of the following list recently for someone on Facebook and figured I would share it here in an elaborated form as my own personal opinion of where to begin. Take it or leave it, but this is just the path I would do/have done if I were building a rig from stock to ROCK!

This list will definitely only apply if you are wanting to build a solid off-roading rig that is similar to what 80% of other off-roading FJ owners do and have done with no problems!

I would also be sure to check out other lists like this one for more advice on where to put your money: https://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...st-2000-a.html


1. Rock Sliders - If you don’t already have the factory/OEM ones or you just want to upgrade, start with rock sliders. These will offer crucial protection needed for your doors and lower side panels. There are many brands to choose from with many different design features, but I suggest sliders with a kickout at the rear as it will help with cornering around obstacles and making sure your rear body panels are more protected from rocks or trees. I've seen photos on here of someone’s trail damage where if they had had sliders with kickouts, their rear fender wouldn’t have gotten damaged from a close tree. My uncle, @Uncle2FJX2000 , has a pretty stock FJ Cruiser and his first big mod was rock sliders from PureFJCruiser after he saw at FJ Summit X how his factory side-steps had taken quite a beating and weren’t suitable for taking off-road impacts. If you have the OEM rock rails (which I actually had on my first FJ) you may look at upgrading them. I did use mine and I have seen others use theirs, meaning I have seen the entire weight of one side of an FJ resting on them and scraping against a rock. They get the job done, but they are so tight to the vehicle that they don’t offer a lot of protection unless the rock or obstacle is right underneath you. Objects protruding from the side would still easily be able to make contact with the vehicle, and I've read the factory sliders can rust from time to time or be crushed if the impact is hard enough. So going with an aftermarket option is never a bad idea. In the end, rock sliders are a necessity if you want to have a suitable off-road rig and want to avoid the headaches of possible lower body damage on the trail.

Check out this guide from Iconic_ for rock sliders: https://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...son-guide.html

Standard step rails wont cut it!


Strong rock sliders are the way to go!


This FJ Cruiser is being lifted completely off the ground by ONLY its rock sliders! Now there is a strong product!


Kick-outs are sometimes a good idea.



2. Suspension Lift - I just want to say now that the FJ Cruiser is very capable as is and I would be sure that you get some offroading in with your rig in stock form so you can see just what it can really do. But adding a lift will give your FJ an additional edge as it will increase your approach, descent, and break-over angles and make scrapping on underbody components a little less likely as well as increase the ride quality and capability of your suspension. For the standard FJ Cruiser off-roader, I would choose the most common and capable kind of lift found in our community, a 3" lift. And when I say a 3” lift, I mean a REAL 3" lift. I wouldn’t recommend getting the cheaper and therefore more appealing spacer lifts/leveling kits that you see on the market like the somewhat popular Daystar kit or even a Rough Country 3” Lift as it only uses spacers to increase the front ride height. Choose a kit that actually replaces the front strut assembly with new components as well as the rear shocks and coil springs. A 3” Old Man Emu lift kit or 3” Bilstein 5100 lift kit is a good option that is really affordable. Keep in mind however that it doesn’t have (much) adjustability, so you can’t tune your ride height if your FJ is riding a little high or low in the front like you can with adjustable coilovers. If funds are limited but you still want a kit with adjustable coilovers, look at ToyTec lifts as they have a few options to choose from. With more money you can upgrade to some really top notch kits like King, Fox, Icon, etc. I would spend the money to do it right the first time and get a kit with adjustable coilovers in the front, and if you plan to off-road Baja style, get front and rear shocks with external reservoirs. New upper control arms will also be a great option if you have the extra $$$ as the factory UCA ball joints tend to fail and not do well in lifted applications, especially when it comes to keeping the ideal alignment.

Here is a guide to FJ Cruiser lifts that may help, and as I suggested, ignore the spacer lifts: https://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...e-updated.html

Go for this! Full coilover/coil/shock replacement and other components.



Avoid this! Simple lift achieved by adding a spacer above the front strut or rear coil. Some come with new rear shocks or rear coils but avoid the front spacers!




3. 33” Tires - For the common FJ Cruiser off-roader, the most popular tire size that tends to have little to no problems when it comes to rubbing is the 285/70R17 (if you have the factory 17” wheels) or 285/75R16 (if you have factory 16” wheels) which is roughly a 33” x 11.50” tire. This is a tire size that has been run since the FJ’s beginnings and many people are very pleased with the results. It looks good, performs good, doesn’t affect the speedometer much at all or affect engine power/torque, and is very available from pretty much every brand of tire out there. If you really desire to, you can look at aftermarket wheels, but be sure to do your research and see what others have done to see what will fit so you don't have any issues with rubbing. The most common rubbing problem that results when people have an aftermarket wheels or tires is rubbing the frame where the body mounts at the rear of the front wheel wells. With different offset/backspacing than the factory wheels, wider tires, or when folks run wheel spacers, the tire is then able to contact that body mount making a "body mount chop" necessary. You can do plenty of research on here to discover how that is done or how to avoid it. But in general, the 33” tires and a 3” lift are a solid choice and are the most common mod combo by far when it comes to FJ Cruisers. I recommend getting the tires and lift installed around the same time as it will keep your FJ from looking like it skipped leg day at the gym!

Here is a link to the wheels and tires section of the forum, just go here for all your wheel and tire questions! Be sure to read the sticky threads in that section first as they will help you find the answers to the most common questions concerning fitting any tire or wheel size: Wheels and Tires - Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum

A classic 285/75R16 on TRD 16" wheels tackling Moab just fine!


A 3" lifted FJ with 285/70R17s on factory 17" alloy wheels at full turn while off-roading and no rubbing!




4. Bumpers - There are many options when it comes to bumpers from those that are of a tubular design to those that are made of plates of metal, but really it all just comes down to your personal preference. Some will be lighter and made of aluminum but most come in steel. Some are designed to have winches mounted in them so then you have a useful recovery tool for off-roading or other situations. Some have large brush guards that will help protect your rig in the event of an accident with another vehicle or animal impact as well as offer off-road protection of course. Do your research and choose a bumper based on your preference and needs. The front bumper is what most will probably focus on, but the rear bumper is also important. Some rear bumpers can have nice swing out arms that are good for carrying equipment and mounting heavier/larger tires to alleviate stress on the rear cargo door of the FJ. If you’re looking for the most ideal bumper for off-roading purposes specifically, the lower the profile of your front and rear bumpers, the better your approach and descent angles will be so you’ll be less likely to scrape on them when approaching an obstacle or coming off an obstacle. Make sure to check out other bumper related accessories as well from aftermarket lighting to winches and even limb-risers and whatnot.

Here are listings for front and rear bumpers that may help in your decision making process:

https://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...on-thread.html
https://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...on-thread.html

A standard Demello Offroad plate bumper design with brush guard.


A Trailworx Fab tube style bumper design.


A couple Expedition One rear bumper designs including one with a swingout!




5. Skid Plates - These pieces of aluminum or steel under-body armor will serve as important shields to protect your FJ's under-side components. You'll find there are companies that sell the major pieces of armor including front bash plates, engine skids, transmission skid plates, and gas tank skids, etc. But there are also those who offer other specialized armor pieces like lower control arm skids, rear lower shock mount skids, or front and rear lower link skids as well as rear differential skids or E-locker guards. With skid plates you’ll be so much more at peace of mind when you go off-road and you’ll have a lot more confidence to tackle any situation!

Here is a comparison for skid plates that may be handy: https://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...on-thread.html

Photos of Budbuilt skid plates that offer protection of your FJ's underside.



6. What Next? - Well at this point if you have done everything prior on the list, you’re going to have a solid build! But as we all know, the modding is never complete! Your own goals for your FJ and your future travel plans will greatly determine what direction you may want to go with your mods. For some they may want to enhance the performance of their FJ Cruiser so logical mods for them may include a supercharger, cold air intake, aftermarket exhaust, exhaust headers, etc. But for others they may have plans to overland travel for weeks at a time and the FJ will become their base camp, so dual battery setups, roof top tents, refrigerators, cargo shelves, etc. may be on their radar. Just look at what you want to do or what matters in your eyes to increase the quality of your FJ experience and spend your money according to those goals. The forum will be an excellent resource for doing research for any sort of mod you can think of. Be sure to search around on the forums first when questions arise but if you are needing specific info about a mod, then be sure to ask!

A decked out FJ with 35s, a roof top tent, snorkel, and many other goodies!


Good luck in your building endeavors and I hope this has been a useful list to someone!

Last edited by FJX2000; 09-05-2018 at 06:06 PM.
FJX2000 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-24-2017, 01:13 AM
Forum Regular
 
missionAvs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 179
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Garage
Re: Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

Great post!
xSandstormx likes this.

2014 Iceberg White Offroad Package: Icon IVD coated Stage 1 w/ Camburg BJ UCA's, 285/70/17 Goodyear Duratracs + ARB Front Bumper + TJM Stealth Series 9000 Winch + ARB Safari Snorkel + ARB Skids and Recovery Point + OPFOR Sliders + Baja Flat Utility Rack
missionAvs is offline  
post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-24-2017, 07:58 AM
Forum Superstar
 
BlindWilly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Arlington, TX.
Posts: 2,887
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 843 Post(s)
Garage
Re: Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

Great Post.
I'm glad you added the link to "The first $2000" thread. That's where I got my start from and where I always suggest people go look.
I went in a slightly different order than you did in this write up, but ultimately wound up with the same results.
My first mod was tires. I knew the FJ was capable stock, but that the highway tires were crap on the trails. Of course I had to get a BMC once I put them on, lol.

Proud owner of "Muddy", my 2013 Quicksand FJ.
http://www.txpedition.com


"No Matter Where You Go, There You Are"
-Buckaroo Bonzai
BlindWilly is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-25-2017, 09:00 AM
801
Forum Regular
 
801's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: UT
Posts: 132
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Re: Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

Great list! I might suggest a point number 6 “What Next” that is just a list of many mods that are available for the FJ that new owners can then google for. I didn’t even know a lot of the mods existed (fridge, compressor, rtt, Rotopax, etc.) and it might be a good jumping point.
801 is offline  
post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-25-2017, 11:10 AM
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 249
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 68 Post(s)
Lifetime Supporting Member
Re: Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

If I were starting from scratch, I'd first evaluate the condition of my tires, if I had lots of tread/mileage left, I WOULD NOT START THERE!
Get your use, miles out of them first and would not do lift or suspension until time of tire/wheel replacement, as original tires and wheels look a little goofy IMHO on original 16 wheels. Now if your suspension is shot, that changes the equasion. If tires and suspension OK, would start with a little mild off road use, so you can get used to performance off road, and included A track, lockers,etc. Where you normally drive, climate, how much off road use should drive choice in replacement tires and suspension. I found that adjustable ToyTec coilovers are a good choice for me as, I don't do much hard core off roading. If you think you will need a winch, would plan on it and aftermarket bumper of your choice at same time. I went for ARB, which is a heavy bumper and Warn 10K winch WITH SYNTHETIC LINE, less dangerous and saves about 200 lbs of weight compared to steel cable line over front bumper. If you want to use a roof top tent, you will need a flat rack; but since I did not make that choice, I went with lower profile Baja that has rails around entire perimeter of full length model I chose. If keeping FJ in garage, you need to be very concerned about total height of FJ, including different tires, wheels, lift, type of rack and any issues of approach/departure angles if your garage is on hill or incline to be sure you have adequate clearance. Height of lights added can also be a factor, Have to take measurements, do the math to figure out what your best options are!

busterfuzz
busterfuzz is offline  
post #6 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-25-2017, 11:49 AM Thread Starter
4-Corners Moderator
 
FJX2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Cortez, CO or Provo, UT
Posts: 4,788
Blog Entries: 22
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 449 Post(s)
Garage
Lifetime Supporting Member
(Thread Starter)
Re: Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

Quote:
801 previously said: View Post
Great list! I might suggest a point number 6 “What Next” that is just a list of many mods that are available for the FJ that new owners can then google for. I didn’t even know a lot of the mods existed (fridge, compressor, rtt, Rotopax, etc.) and it might be a good jumping point.
Great suggestion!
xSandstormx likes this.
FJX2000 is offline  
post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-25-2017, 12:43 PM
Forum Regular
 
ttfjc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Bozeman
Posts: 274
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 97 Post(s)
Garage
Re: Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

the next noob thread should be "why you don't need 35's on your new FJC"
FJX2000 and FJFool like this.
ttfjc is offline  
post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-01-2017, 09:07 AM
Member
 
SemperFi4Ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Beautiful Colorado
Posts: 33
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Re: Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

Quote:
FJX2000 previously said: View Post
New upper control arms will also be a great option if you have the extra $$$ as the factory UCA ball joints tend to fail and not do well in lifted applications, especially when it comes to keeping the ideal alignment in lifted applications.
What noticeable differences are there in aftermarket control arms over stock control arms? I have a 3" lift, will that affect my ball joints much? I'm a newbie when it comes to suspension so I'm just curious.

Last edited by FJX2000; 11-06-2017 at 06:27 PM.
SemperFi4Ever is offline  
post #9 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-01-2017, 09:10 AM
Forum Regular
 
ttfjc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Bozeman
Posts: 274
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 97 Post(s)
Garage
Re: Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

Quote:
SemperFi4Ever previously said: View Post
What noticeable differences are there in aftermarket control arms over stock control arms? I have a 3" lift, will that affect my ball joints much? I'm a newbie when it comes to suspension so I'm just curious.
absolutely. better articulation, better alignment, stronger components. Plus they look cool
ttfjc is offline  
post #10 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-01-2017, 01:53 PM
Member
 
SemperFi4Ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Beautiful Colorado
Posts: 33
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Re: Where to Begin with Mods - The FJX2000 List

Quote:
ttfjc previously said: View Post
absolutely. better articulation, better alignment, stronger components. Plus they look cool
Those are some pretty good reasons. Cool factor definitely plays a part. Just orderd a complete UCA assembly from Toytech. Thanks for quick response TT.

xSandstormx likes this.

Last edited by SemperFi4Ever; 11-01-2017 at 02:06 PM.
SemperFi4Ever is offline  
Reply

  Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum > Toyota FJ Cruiser Discussion > 4x4 / Off-Road Tech

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome