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Re: What's the best year to buy?

Is the FJ the only vehicle that has no 2010 leftovers? I can't seem to find any on the internet. Maybe this is just a bad time of the year to be looking for a 4X4. With snow in the forecast dealers think they have you by the short and curly's anyway, but no leftovers?

I'd also like to find out what the differences in the engines are. You mentioned the older ones were easier to maintain and the new ones had variable valve timing w/a bit more HP and gas mileage. The HP means little to me, I'm a torque fan ... love the grunt at low rpm. My Triumph has 155 ft lbs at 2000 rpm and stomps all over those 200 hp crotch rockets, so I'm wondering if maybe the previous engine has advantages over the "new and improved".

I'll be using Mobil 1 and extending oil services to between 8,000 and 10,000 miles, but I'll be doing it myself along with most other repairs/maintenance. Is the new engine more trouble to service at home? Is it just an access issue?

My biggest concern for upkeep is the drive-line ... primarily the front axles and hubs. I never had any trouble with my Raider, but that was a different animal.

I guess I'll learn as I go ... Toyota is just about the only make I've never owned before.

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Is the FJ the only vehicle that has no 2010 leftovers? I can't seem to find any on the internet. Maybe this is just a bad time of the year to be looking for a 4X4. With snow in the forecast dealers think they have you by the short and curly's anyway, but no leftovers?

I'd also like to find out what the differences in the engines are. You mentioned the older ones were easier to maintain and the new ones had variable valve timing w/a bit more HP and gas mileage. The HP means little to me, I'm a torque fan ... love the grunt at low rpm. My Triumph has 155 ft lbs at 2000 rpm and stomps all over those 200 hp crotch rockets, so I'm wondering if maybe the previous engine has advantages over the "new and improved".

I'll be using Mobil 1 and extending oil services to between 8,000 and 10,000 miles, but I'll be doing it myself along with most other repairs/maintenance. Is the new engine more trouble to service at home? Is it just an access issue?

My biggest concern for upkeep is the drive-line ... primarily the front axles and hubs. I never had any trouble with my Raider, but that was a different animal.

I guess I'll learn as I go ... Toyota is just about the only make I've never owned before.
The new ones have dual VVT, the old ones only had it on the intake valves.

You also must remove the skid plates anytime you change the oil, not at all needed on the older. Doing an oil change in general is a heck of a lot easier on the older model. No filter style cartridge thingy they are now using.

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Re: What's the best year to buy?

If I was looking for a used FJ, I would look for a 2009. By 2009 model year they had the newest fender apron (late 2008 models do also), and has the old engine so oil changes are alot easier to do. The downside to the '09 is that they didn't build very many. Any year is good though, just look for one that isn't thrashed and low mileage is a good thing IMO.
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Re: What's the best year to buy?

'08 is the last year that has an available TRD supercharger, right?
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Re: What's the best year to buy?

get a 2007, because the rest are just reproductions of the original. hehehe

best to see if you can get a fj from a non toyota dealership

you would probably save 3-5k just because of that

drive both at and manual

drive as many of them you can thats the best way to make up your mind

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Re: What's the best year to buy?

Hellfire, LIke most said keep an eye out for the fender tears/bulge on an older FJ. Don't fret it though, if you run across an older one and it's clear of the defect, most likely that fj will never get it.

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Hellfire, LIke most said keep an eye out for the fender tears/bulge on an older FJ. Don't fret it though, if you run across an older one and it's clear of the defect, most likely that fj will never get it.
Kinda like an inherited, genetic, built on Friday, birth defect.
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Re: What's the best year to buy?

2010 - current have a tighter turning radius. I have an 07 with over 100k no problems yet knock on wood
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Re: What's the best year to buy?

They changed the Rear Diff in the 2010 to a larger 8.25 unit to beef it up over the previous model years. You also get a Back up Camera built in to the mirror, map lights up front. Also updated is the 4.0 to a dual variable over head valve that feels faster than the earlier models and also returns better gas mileage.

Down sides to the 2010.
The new motor has the oil filter down below like other cars, makes changing with skids harder.
The Rear diff, although larger and beefier, does not have aftermarket gears or Lockers available for it yet... Im sure this will change soon... I hope.
The Back up camera, although cool, if you mount larger wheel on the back with bigger tire, some of your downward view is obstructed.

Some people ***** about the new motor that the torque comes on later. I have driven both back to back and there is a difference, the 2010 felt faster in the upper revs, had better throttle response and although it has 8 less FTLB's of torque it has a flatter curve so there is more power under the curve on the new motor.

If toyota follows suite like they have in past with the VVTI engine, there will not be a supercharger with this motor which kinda sucks. but Im sure URD will have fun with it soon enough. Better Breathing motor with a blower is awesome! Can't wait to see what they come up with!

Also, the new motor responds very very favorable to 93 octane. I stopped into a station and all they had was 93 on a working pump. So I filled up on 93 and wow. There was a huge Butt Dyno Power improvement from the 87 I was using the previous tank. Im kinda wondering now what the MPG difference would be with 93 and if it is worth it.

So yes.. the 2010 is improved and is the best FJC yet!

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If I was looking for a used FJ, I would look for a 2009. By 2009 model year they had the newest fender apron (late 2008 models do also), and has the old engine so oil changes are alot easier to do. The downside to the '09 is that they didn't build very many.
All of these are reasons I started out looking for an '09 with a 6 speed manual. Wow, rude awakening. I don't even see any '09's for sale, let alone a 6 speed. How come Toyota didn't build many ? Was it the economy, or was something wrong that they were trying to correct ?
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