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Actually, yes it does.

For all it does right, the FJ has very, very little rear visibility.

Seriously, anything shorter than the top of the spare tire directly behind the vehicle will be completely invisible to you in the driver's seat and to all mirrors.
Uh-oh, mine does not have one. Should I take it back, stop driving it?! Is there a TSB for this?
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Does the most basic 4x4 really need a rear backup camera that displays in the rear view mirror ? Is this really a feature off-roaders are looking for?
I absolutely concur. However, the "herp derp" crowd is pushing this as a safety feature:

NHTSA Proposes Standard Backup Cameras in All Vehicles By 2014 - Auto Observer

Attributing a mandatory feature to "safety" is insufficient justification for me. For example, I have no issue with seat belts, but I draw the line against DRL's, backup cameras, and seat belt reminder chimes. If enough people get annoyed perhaps there will be a mod thread for disabling the camera. It looks like we will have to deal with FJ's coming from the factory with the camera from now on, though.

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I think its crazy how you can't get some configurations/colors based on area. ie.. you can't get a 2011 Blue Manual trans in Kansas City, however it is available in Denver, CO - this is according to the toyota.com builder...
It isn't that you can't get them in KC, it is that there are only 11 in the USA in the Blue so far this year..

The Portland region (where I work) supplies Denver and KC with their vehicles as this is the port which all Japanese made vehicles come through for those regions.. I know you can get it..

Here is one closer to you than Denver
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It is on the gound right now VIN JTEBU4BF8BK099269

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F CQ Remote Keyless Entry System, Cruise Control, Power Outside Mirrors with Illuminated Markers, Rear Privacy Glass, Rear Window Wiper, Spare Tire Cover, and Auto-Dimming Rearview Mirror with Integrated Backup Camera Monitor
P CF Carpet Floor Mats & Cargo Mat

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F FE 50 State Emissions
F OF Off-Road Package:
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I don't think the camera should be required. Nanny is becoming more and more demented. Then again, someone keeps electing people to office who pass laws and appoint regulators that push this mentality. If you keep on doing what you're doing, you'll keep on getting more of what you've got.

That said, I find it helpful compared to our '7 when backing up or attaching a trailer.
The seat belt chime is annoying to me. The backup camera is not. I'm glad it is an option.

Several years ago there was a lot of discussion about the 'poor rearward visibility' of the FJ. Toyota offered a solution that did help visibility as well as their bottom line.

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Here is one closer to you than Denver
Cedric Theel Toyota
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It is on the gound right now VIN JTEBU4BF8BK099269
I guess the one you mentioned is not in the system yet. I went to their site and only ones I saw as "In-Stock" were two 2010s. I did see two blue ones listed as "Available". So they are at other dealerships.

http://cedrictheeltoyota.com/Bismarc...ta/FJ-Cruiser/

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It shows in the National Toyota dealer system, so it may not be on their site as of yet.. Not all dealers have the best in websites..

It has been there since Dec 20th.. 2010..

I don't know, I looked at the inventory also and I couldn't find it.. But the national system says it is there...

Funny,..

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Re: Really? Can't order a base model!

I saw an FJ in Denver that didn't have any mirror light. I didn't get a chance to see if it was a true base model though.

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It shows in the National Toyota dealer system, so it may not be on their site as of yet.. Not all dealers have the best in websites..

It has been there since Dec 20th.. 2010..

I don't know, I looked at the inventory also and I couldn't find it.. But the national system says it is there...

Funny,..
Are you a dealer? Asking since you have access to the national system. If so, aren't pr shouldn't the dealer sites just be their piece of the national system (i.e same database segregated by the dealer name)?

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I tried to order a 2011 FJ 6-speed with just the Convenience and Upgrade packages.

After waiting for two months without any proof that my order would ever be accepted, I gave up and bought a 2011 with the Convenience and Off-Road packages off the floor.

This is just, unfortunately, the way Toyota works - they build "common configurations" and true custom orders are rare and take forever.
I hope this isn't another common practice. Actually put a deposit on a base model 4x4 Auto with only FE and the rear locker. No CQ or OF ! Did I just bag bigfoot or did I fall for another car salesman trick? Said delivery was estimated at 12 weeks. If this turns out to be legit, I might actually have something nice to say about a car salesman!
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I hope this isn't another common practice. Actually put a deposit on a base model 4x4 Auto with only FE and the rear locker. No CQ or OF ! Did I just bag bigfoot or did I fall for another car salesman trick? Said delivery was estimated at 12 weeks. If this turns out to be legit, I might actually have something nice to say about a car salesman!
12 weeks sounds about right assuming Toyota accepts the order and actually builds it - that's the tricky bit.
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