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To crawl or not to crawl?

Howdy. First time poster and soon to be FJ owner. Am looking at 3 different FJs, all priced within a couple hundred bucks.
All same to have the TRD stuff, if I'm understanding it correctly : Atrac, Diff Lock, Bilstein shocks

2012 Army Green 38K miles, JBL, New Mickey Thompson wheels and tires, Clarion Navigation/Backup camera, No crawler

2013 Iceberg 79k miles, JBL, Backup in rearview, Crawler

2014 Army Green 72K miles, No JBL, Backup rearview mirror, Crawler Free Lifetime, Unlimited mile Nationwide warranty

Main question I need answered surrounds the use of the crawler function. Which of the above packages would you advise for the southeastern USA with an occasional snow and some light off roading in muddy conditions?

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Re: To crawl or not to crawl?

If they are all that close in price, Id go with the 12. Has the lowest miles and differences between 12-14 are minimal. You can live without crawl... 4LO and 1st gear will get you the same result.
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Re: To crawl or not to crawl?

I agree with @Joabmc . Go for low miles, I think you will be keeping it for a while. Don't let CRAWL be a deal breaker. I've only used it a few times, and that was years ago.
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Re: To crawl or not to crawl?

Listen to em they got it right, go low miles and forget about CC for now. You can buy the parts and add crawl control for chump change anyway, there are great threads on here providing ever drop of info needed for that mod since all you need is the hardware, the computer already has the programming loaded in the later models.

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Re: To crawl or not to crawl?

Thanks for your response, Joabmc, Primer, Thorn 661. Got to admit, it was what I was wanting to hear. This 2012 is at a local dealer and they are willing to sell me a 5 yr./ and added 100,000 mile extended comprehensive warranty at their cost to consummate the deal. I can wait and purchase that later, if purchased before a certain, unknown @ present, mileage cut-off. I'll find out what that cut-off is tomorrow.
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I don't think the 2012's have that darn air injection for emission control... If that is correct, I say get the 2012 for less emission garbage on the engine... Plus, I totally agree that the CC is not that important. It is nice to use during a hill abort (Backing down a steep hill) but that is about all it is good for... IMHO

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Re: To crawl or not to crawl?

Agree with all said, I'd buy the '12. I bought new so went for Crawl because I could though hard to find one as more common option was the Upgrade package. The cars with Crawl did also get upgraded suspension, Bilsteins but forfeited the JBL, leather wheel, colour coded interior panels and a few other things. No brainer to go with the lowest miles if everything else adds up.

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Re: To crawl or not to crawl?

With all other things being equal, I'd go for 12 with lower mileage, IF using VIN for CarFax, AutoChek, AND using VIN to check Toyota db for service, warranty; and recall history, Sounds like "aftermarket", not Toyota factory extended warranty due to age of vehicle, not
mileage? Be wary, most non factory extended warranties are not worth the paper they are printed on! Also, have also purchased Toyota extended warranties on all Toyota's I've purchased, as I run out of time before I run out of mileage, as my current 2011 TT only has 22,600 miles and almost 7 years old. I received a 40% discount off list for Toyota warranties, so after market markups can be expected to be considerably higher, so read thoroughly and be very careful!

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Thanks for all replies. This site is going to be a great source. Was not aware of the changes in air injection/emissions on these FJs. Good to know. When wife wanted a new tractor, I insisted on a Tier 3.
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Re: To crawl or not to crawl?

I personally love Crawl. I'm at the beach quite frequently and Crawl has saved me the misery of digging more than a few times. The effect of Crawl can NOT be duplicated by 4LO. A-Track comes close, but it's much more violent on the brakes and suspension. If you find yourself stuck in the sand or in the snow, you'll appreciate the magic of Crawl. For every day 4 wheeling, it's not very useful though.

If you live near the sand dunes, I'd say get Crawl. If you're just running BLM trails and dragging your boat out of the water, get the newest FJ with the least miles.

Don't let the JBL stereo sway you either way. Both, JBL and non-JBL stereo systems SUCK! You're far better off going with an after market double-dinn deck in ANY of the models you've listed.

Here's a video of Crawl getting my FJ unstuck while I'm not even in the drivers seat.

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