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help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

Need some fast help.

local fellow is selling his 2007 with 220k for below value. Motor makes a ton of noise. Assuming its the chain, but with that many miles, I would assume its smart to put in a used motor in it. Vehicle also has an oil leak. I am not a car guy, but i would assume a different motor may solve the leak?

Has anyone had experience with putting a different motor in? Cost?

Thanks so much!
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Re: help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

Putting a different motor in has been beaten to death - and is very expensive no matter what you choose as the aternate.

Mine has 325K miles on it and the motor is fine. The motor in the FJ is solid - and available in fully rebuilt format or else low mileage used. Cost is $3-6K plus the installation at your local "expert" location. It isn't rocket science - if you have the motor sitting in the crate next to your FJ, it's unbolting and saving all the bits you take off then putting back on after removing the hood and radiator(s).

If you want more 'pep', and a longer lasting setup - drop the gearing. I swapped from the stock 3:88 gears to 4:56 - takes the strain off the 1GRFE motor when you are pulling trailer, climbing hills or generally offroading.
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Re: help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

Thanks. The current owner is asking 3K for a 2007 with 220k. Engine makes noise. sounds like its going to stall. Also has an oil leak. Needs brakes and rotors all around, and rear dif work. Owner is asking just 3k for it. Just not sure how much $$$ I'd have to put in to get it up to snuff. I do see motors on ebay used for about 2000 to 2500, but have to pay for install.
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Re: help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

These motors are quite noisy even new. A loose timing chain will usually make a code caused by the crank sensor not aligning with the cam sensor anymore. Is the check engine light on?

Replacing a timing chain is a lot of work. You could have a dealer quote it, but I would expect at least $2000.

A purchase like this has a fair bit of risk. The price is low enough, you may be able to sell it for more than you paid if you clean it up well if all else fails. Before buying a vehicle in this case, definitely have it taken to a trusted Toyota dealer for a thorough inspection. Have each of the major and minor needed jobs quoted and you'll have an idea of where you stand on the vehicle. Then you can plan what jobs do have done, which to do yourself, look for less expensive ways to repair the problems etc. and decide if you want a project like this. Is the goal to get it to drive and be usable, or made back to like new condition, or somewhere in between?

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Re: help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

That actually still sounds like it could be a decent deal if you dont mind putting in some work.

Brakes: $500
Motor: $4000
Rear End: $800 (ECGS)
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Re: help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

Thanks for all the help.

Vehicle is currently no inspected. I know for sure it needs brakes. Would a motor that makes noise (again, sounds like its going to stall) cause it to fail state inspection as well?

Secondly, any value experts out there on value? Lets pretend I bought this for 3K and then decided not going to fix it, could I get my 3k back or close to it, selling as is?
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Re: help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

Not sure of the value for your area, in central Ohio looks like you could put a few thousands in and be at average book.
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I second the thoughts of FJ-6MT and Iconic_ . If the truck isn't as bad as the seller thinks, then maybe it's a "deal". But you'll have to put cash and/or sweat into it. Compare this against other FJs where you can finance the cost of "in good condition". On the other hand, if it's not going to be your DD and you fix it up over time, it may be a lower cost entry into an FJ. First step is to get it evaluated like FJ-6MT says.
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Thanks for all the help.
Vehicle is currently no inspected. I know for sure it needs brakes. Would a motor that makes noise (again, sounds like its going to stall) cause it to fail state inspection as well?
Secondly, any value experts out there on value? Lets pretend I bought this for 3K and then decided not going to fix it, could I get my 3k back or close to it, selling as is?

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Re: help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

The cost of the repairs is totally relevant to the conversation.

But sometimes we just need a freakin' adventure. If you could shoulder a financial loss of several thousand dollars, maybe just go for it.

People go to casinos, money losers beyond any reasonable debate, and have fun. If this FJ speaks to you, get it and see where it leads.

We bought a 1959 Willys for my wife, and it was not meant to be. Lots of work, and not what we were wanting. We cobbled it together and lost money. That led to a very fun 1966 F100 that may be a keeper. The point is you learn, you build your skills, you enjoy the path, and know that NOTHING in life is forever.

Who knows? Get this thing, and find out the "dead engine noise" is a $30 idler pulley!

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PS If you are in Tucson, I will be there in 30 minutes to help you get it home!!
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Re: help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

You will make more money parting it out than selling it, if you got it for $3k.
Remember - they don't make 'em anymore....

A 1GRFE rebuilt will set you back about $4k, and $2k installation where I am.

If you like to wrench, then they also make a stroker crank and pistons for the 1GRFE - just don't remember the price. The only way to get any respectable HP gain with this motor is supercharger or build a stroker.


The tranny and case should net you half of what your $3k back. Diffs might get another $750.

There's mine for a dollar...
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Re: help? 2007 with 220K needs motor?

For $3k I would take the chance.

I'm with longtooth - if it fails, part it out.

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