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Re: Why does the paint suck so bad?

Be warned, several years ago a guy on a Toyota forum introduced me to the world of detailing. If you go to a detailing forum - like autopia.org, you will drink from the fire hose of information. FWIW, I caught the bug and started detailing on the side 7 years ago, it's fun IF you don't get carried away, Keep It Simple!
Best advice, new or new to you - buy a quality car wash like Duragloss, claybar - Mothers is good, cheap and easy to get, wax - now, here's where you can spend the $$, but, honestly - price does NOT equal quality. I like a product called Blackfire Wet Diamond, Autogeek sells it, ain't cheap but it's good! And a little goes a LONG way!
Any bugs or bird bombs need to be removed ASAP, otherwise they will etch in and depending on paint/poop/time - could require repainting, if you're lucky, maybe they will buff out.
Toyota paint is funny, our van was as tough as any Audi/BMW I'd ever done, but I have seen Tundra paint on the soft side and easily marred.
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Re: Why does the paint suck so bad?

a rule of thumb for bird dirt, use bug and tar and spray the **** out of the area. let it soak then get some clean shop paper towels and pick it up gently. then finish with some detailing spray. that is if your car is decently dust free. if its dusty, just go to a carwash.

to the guy who has rust spots on the paint, its called rail dust basically metal dust deposited on the paint. you can remove it with clay bar and some detailing spray. keep the paint waxed.

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Re: Why does the paint suck so bad?

As several guys have posted, the paint anymore is not anywhere near what it used to be. The absence of lead in the paint make the paint harder but in the end, more prone to chipping. Instead of having a little flex, it chips away. Best rule of thumb is that when you wash it, touch up the spots.

Simple color paints do not have a clear coat. Red, white, yellow, the flat concrete color etc. are not clear coated. The colors that have any metal flake,like silver, will have what is called a base coat and a clear coat finish. If you notice a lot of red Toyota's the paint will fade from a lack of clear coat. Silver and other metallic colors will not fade.

There are many variables to paint but I can tell you that all car companies have paint issues and most of it we can thank the EPA and the federal government for.

Never wipe with out rinsing, always keep it waxed, paint sealant or teflon coatings do a great job and will help. A regular buffing and waxing will do wonders. Environmental fallout and bird droppings are a b***h! Keep it cleaned off. Claybars work wonders but do require buffing afterwards. The rail dust is normal on almost any white or light colored car, you just can't see it on the darker colors.

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