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Try this one guys! A Quasiturbine kind of like a Wankel but better. It can run on just about anything Air water(steam) or fuel. check it out.








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Jason . . . please don't kill the diesels just yet . . .

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very nice woodsman. Can't wait till the diesels invade. Maybe I will have enough extra $ to buy a commuter.


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ha - but why do diesel if you could run on totally clean power? (I'm asking - not saying it rhetorically)

that turbine is really cool! how would it run on air or steam though?

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ha - but why do diesel if you could run on totally clean power? (I'm asking - not saying it rhetorically)

that turbine is really cool! how would it run on air or steam though?
I agree . . . but until they get past the limitations of battery power and the weight associated with them, we will still need some other type of power. All electric is great for commuter cars and that alone would really help reduce smog.

To help you and your quest for electric, there is a company working on developing small (like the size of a bath tub) nuclear power plants that could power a city with up to 20,000 homes. I'll have to look for the name . . . another potential investment if they go public . . . hmmmmm, what's this thing from Hyperion Power Generation ?

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Quasiturbine Steam Engine

Quasiturbine Pneumatic Engine

there is tons of stuff on there site to read and go through I still dont fully understand all the diffrent types


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I agree . . . but until they get past the limitations of battery power and the weight associated with them, we will still need some other type of power. All electric is great for commuter cars and that alone would really help reduce smog.

To help you and your quest for electric, there is a company working on developing small (like the size of a bath tub) nuclear power plants that could power a city with up to 20,000 homes. I'll have to look for the name . . . another potential investment if they go public . . . hmmmmm, what's this thing from Hyperion Power Generation ?

A bath-tub sized nuclear reactor could power 20,000 homes - Newlaunches.com
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Wind turbines require an initial wind speed to even produce some energy. Cheap wind turbines only produce 1-2kiloWatt at max wind speed. So they are good if you live in a windy area(10+mph).
Keep also in mind that wind turbines, although a very clean source are expensive and not easy to setup(long pole) and you also need the inverter/battery stuff like solar.
I think if you really want to go green, then install Solar panels for all your electrical needs and Seido Solar Tubes for Hot water and home heating.
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I think the term "clean power" misleading. Power still has to be generated and stored for use.

If electric cars go big, where is all the power to charge them going to come from? Nuclear power plants? Coal fired power plants? Windmills.....doubt it. Damns?

Once batteries are cycled out and no good......what is going to happen to thousands of batteries?

Electric powered vehicels are in the middle of the solution to polution.A power supply that can produce the energy we need on demand, or if we can find a clean and substantial means to supply the power demands and something enviro friendly to store the charge, then it will be good.

Until then we are only fooling ourselves with electric cars being 'good' for the planet, it is band-aid solution at best IMO.

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I think the term "clean power" misleading. Power still has to be generated and stored for use.

If electric cars go big, where is all the power to charge them going to come from? Nuclear power plants? Coal fired power plants? Windmills.....doubt it. Damns?

Once batteries are cycled out and no good......what is going to happen to thousands of batteries?

Electric powered vehicels are in the middle of the solution to polution.A power supply that can produce the energy we need on demand, or if we can find a clean and substantial means to supply the power demands and something enviro friendly to store the charge, then it will be good.

Until then we are only fooling ourselves with electric cars being 'good' for the planet, it is band-aid solution at best IMO.
This is my point as well! Something that has not been brought up in this thread yet is the generation of syngas - or bio-oil - created by heating up any dry organic material in the absence of oxygen (pyrolysis). It's actually an exothermic reaction (generates more energy than what's required to get it going) and can use agricultural waste products for the feedstock - manure, crop waste, woody material, etc. instead of FOOD - like the corn used for the production of ethanol (bad idea IMO). Perhaps best of all, the remaining material from the reaction is bio-char - a type of charcoal that can be used as a soil amendment to drastically increase plant/crop productivity by binding nutrients - preventing pollution in water run-off. The bio-char is comprised mostly of carbon and can stay in the soil for hundreds and thousands of years. This creates a type of soil called Terra Preta, a type of soil orignially invented and managed by indigenous people in the Americas. It also is actually a net-negative atmospheric carbon process for all you global warming nuts out there.

This technology is up and coming and I've seen estimates that predict it could sustainably replace up to 40% of our current energy needs if fully implemented, so it's not an insignificant pipe dream.

Here's some info for additional reading:

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