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Another Toyota like an xB or such and get 33+ MPG.





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Sorry, everytime I see the title I can't help but think the OP is asking for psychiatric help to Jerome the urge to swap an FJ for a Tesla. No offence intended, I hope none taken, just can't help but to read it that way!

My opinion on what the contribution of the Tesla Motor Company has made... they have put the name of the most underrated scientist on the map... ("Tesla, The man who invented the 20th Century") Two people in history I would like to meet would have been Nikola Tesla and Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain).

Sorry I digress from the question.

I ran a cheap car as well as the FJ until recently. A Honda Jazz, 55mpg but as boring as 'ditch water'... I sold it in Jan, for various reasons. I worked out it was costing me money to run it along side the FJ. Running costs versus the fuel cost savings broke about even but if I factored in the depreciation on the Honda I was out of pocket. Plus why walk past the FJ to drive a car I hated. But now it's gone I miss it, I miss being able to leave it anywhere without caring, and nobody noticing it. I miss the 'lets go somewhere' without caring about a bit of fuel. I would buy another commuter when circumstances change again but I wouldn't sell my FJ.

That said if the FJ no longer fits your needs and doesn't have the smile factor any longer then it's time to change and if the Tesla fits the bill now go for it.
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A Honda Jazz. Isn't that a Hummer Escape Pod?

Kids today probably have no clue who Tesla was. I've been reading his work these past few weeks. Fascinating!

And Mr. Clemens
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A Honda Jazz. Isn't that a Hummer Escape Pod?

Kids today probably have no clue who Tesla was. I've been reading his work these past few weeks. Fascinating!

And Mr. Clemens


Coincidentally Tesla and Twain were close acquaintances!



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I can charge for free at work!
Someone pays for it.

I work for the State of California (not proud of it), and there are "free" chargers in the parking lots here. So, of course, on the surface, the State pays to recharge the electric cars of its employees. But what that really means is every Californian pays to recharge them. It's a hidden subsidy for electric car owners at the compulsory expense of everyone else.

Of course, you may work in the private sector, in which case, this doesn't exactly apply.

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Thank you all for the input! So far I am planning to keep my FJ. As cool as it would be to have a Tesla, I agree with what everyone has said, and I think the fun will eventually wear off. Iím tossing around the idea of a cheap commuter car around $5k - $7k. Not yet sure what I would get though!
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Re: Need Help - Considering Trading FJ for Tesla Model 3

There is so much bad information here about Teslas that it is really comical. A bunch of folks who really have no clue what they are talking about making up crap.

Former FJ/Corvette owner both heavily modified....current Tundra / Tesla Model S owner..

The best post in this thread was the idea of different cars for different purposes. But not practical for many.

Unless you are buying a stripper 35k model 3 it won't make sense financially. The two cars are so incredibly different that unless you are looking for a significant life style change can't see swapping one for the other.

Someday when I have more time I will come back to refute some of the craziness sprouted here.





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Re: Need Help - Considering Trading FJ for Tesla Model 3

My sister has a BMW i3, and it's perfect for her. She seldom drives long distance, and it's just her, her daughter and her dog to move around. She traded her X6 for it and is super happy with it.
I've driven it and it's a fun little car.
For commuting a small electric makes sense especially if you get free charging, parking, and also if you get reduced road taxes etc for going "green".
I've toyed with the idea of something small like a leaf or i3, to supplement the FJ, but I'd only do it if it made financial sense.
Also remember that most countries are trying to phase out internal combustion vehicles - as an example, Ireland have just announced that they will only allow 100% electric vehicles by 2030, and fully phase internal combustion engines out out by 2045.
In between now & 2045, getting fuel will become increasingly difficult as demand drops. You might as well get the use out of your FJ over the next 20 years while you can still buy fuel.

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Help! Iím seriously considering trading my Ď14 FJ for a Tesla Model 3.
You DO need help, Don't do it!

Thankfully you've come to the right place.


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Sorry, everytime I see the title I can't help but think the OP is asking for psychiatric help to Jerome the urge to swap an FJ for a Tesla.
Same here, this is a definite cry for help. And he's come to this support group! Good on him.



Of course the den of FJ addicts might not be the most neutral place to come to ask such a question. Me thinks by choosing this forum to post he's leaning towards keeping it.

Keep it, keep it, keep it.



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I've wanted one since I laid my eyes on the concept that started the buzz.
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There is so much bad information here about Teslas that it is really comical. A bunch of folks who really have no clue what they are talking about making up crap.

Someday when I have more time I will come back to refute some of the craziness sprouted here.

Please elaborate soon! Your position is not clear.

I like to hear all takes on EVs.

I do know that generally their "greeness" is overblown.
EVs are not "zero emission" vehicles. More properly they are "elsewhere emission" vehicles, i.e. the charging power comes from the grid and it's source of power. This makes them mostly natural gas or coal fired. While some areas have a higher percentage of energy in the grid from renewable sources, the overall percentage in the US is still small.

Also the manufacturing energy costs are as I understand it greater for EV/Hybrid vehicles vs traditional ones. Those emissions count towards the total environmental cost (impact) of the vehicle too.


I'm not saying we shouldn't push in that direction and keep developing the technology, we absolutely should.
However there needs to be more transparency about the total costs ($ and environmental impact) of EV vs ICE vehicles.

I look forward to the day when there's an affordable drop-in electric motor/battery conversion kit that'll mate up to Chevy 350 running gear/adapters.
That'll hopefully enable "conventional" vehicles to stay on the road as regulations tighten over time on emissions.


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