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View Poll Results: If you are experiencing body rips or bulges with your FJ, what setup are you running?
Stock bumper, no lift 145 28.71%
Stock bumper, w/lift 51 10.10%
Stock bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 51 10.10%
ARB bumper, no lift 6 1.19%
ARB bumper, with lift 22 4.36%
ARB bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 43 8.51%
WARN bumper, no lift 7 1.39%
WARN bumper, w/lift 14 2.77%
WARN bumper w/lift and 285/70 17's 18 3.56%
ARB bumper, w/lift, and 255/85 16's 3 0.59%
ARB bumper, w/lift and 315/75 16's 8 1.58%
Demello bumper, no lift 2 0.40%
Demello bumper, w/lift 12 2.38%
Demello bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 14 2.77%
Road Armour bumper, no lift 0 0%
Road Armour bumper, w/lift 10 1.98%
Road Armour bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 12 2.38%
All-Pro Bumper, no lift 5 0.99%
All-Pro Bumper, w/ Lift 16 3.17%
All-Pro Bumper, w/ lift & 285s 32 6.34%
Stock with Skid Plates 34 6.73%
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Toyota will cover alot of stuff.....this won't be one of them.....your truck has been flying....and didn't like the landing....the insurance, on the otherhand, should cover it if you have full coverage....good luck
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Guys,

There are several cases out there which describe the exact same phenomenon.
I'm dealing with it too! So far, Toyota ignores it. The fact is that the tire runs into the body on full upward travel. This means that the bump stop is insufficient. YOU DO NOT NEED TO JUMP THE CAR TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN! Inspecting several vehicles, it shows that the tire clearances against the body are all over the place on this vehicle. This means, some vehicles have an issue, some not. Just inspect your front body mounts and check on the height of the rubber piece between left and right. This gives you an idea of how much variation there is...

People who have encountered this problem: please contact me with your email address. The more people we get together the more pressure we can put on Toyota to fix this issue - Thanks!
that is very interesting... thanks for the info, I will crawl under the truck and take some measurements later on...
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Toyota will cover alot of stuff.....this won't be one of them.....your truck has been flying....and didn't like the landing....the insurance, on the otherhand, should cover it if you have full coverage....good luck
My truck has never left the ground. I am not into flying. The only thing I do with this rig is trail crawling. I have many people that will stand behind me on this.

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I know - you get flamed here pretty quick
Thanks for doing the research. But the biggest frustration on this case is the way Toyota acts. I sent them a detailed 9 page report with all facts and arguments why I believe that this is a design/production issue. I want this problem to be solved. I love my truck. But no responce back except: warranty voided due to signs of impact. The signs: scratches on the body. Pretty sad argument, isn't it?
I'm so frustrated about them, that I would rather get rid of my truck now. (yes I know I will get flamed for saying that!)
For sure that this is the first and last Toyota I ever bought. And it seems there is not that much positive feedback to find about their customer service in general....
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OK, I have a question about your lifts. I've never put a lift in a vehicle and don't know much about them, so bear with me. When you install your body/suspension lifts, do you have bigger spacers for the most forward set of body mounts (right behind fromt bumper attach points)? If this is not adequately spaced, I can see where there would be lots of stress in the area where the failure occurred.
No new spacers. Only thing replaced were the coils and shocks.

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bernd, please get in touch with me...
it seems i do have a problem receiving emails right now. but i just sent you an email with my contact data.
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True, oversize tire doesn't help it. But the Toyota dealerships offer this vehicle new with 33in tires, which I run as well. I think it can also happen with the original 32 in tires. I will try to prove this...
What are you talking about. The vehicle comes stock with 31" tires, not 33"s.

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I did some quick searching, here and on TTORA. I think I'll look into these before larger tires:

Double Convolution Springs - Timbren Aeon Hollow Rubber Springs

I stuck with stock size BFGs even with a Donahoe front and rear lift because I feared the repercussions of the small wheel well and body mount chop. Man did I get flamed for posting that opinion way back when, but better safe than sorry. I think that gives me a bit more leeway than even stock FJs as far as the stops go.
I've been thinking about what size tire to get for the longest time... everyone tells me to go to 285 but I don't have a fuzzy feeling about it... on all my race cars I've changed the tire size i needed to make a lot of modifications to make sure i didn't damage the suspension or body...
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Guys,

There are several cases out there which describe the exact same phenomenon.
I'm dealing with it too! So far, Toyota ignores it. The fact is that the tire runs into the body on full upward travel. This means that the bump stop is insufficient. YOU DO NOT NEED TO JUMP THE CAR TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN! Inspecting several vehicles, it shows that the tire clearances against the body are all over the place on this vehicle. This means, some vehicles have an issue, some not. Just inspect your front body mounts and check on the height of the rubber piece between left and right. This gives you an idea of how much variation there is...

People who have encountered this problem: please contact me with your email address. The more people we get together the more pressure we can put on Toyota to fix this issue - Thanks!
Just checked on the front mounts. Mine are unequal. One being 1/4 inch shorter that the other. I'm defininitly going to see about replacing them with the ones I mentioned earlier. Thanks and rep to you for pointing that out. I was having bumper clearance issues on one side of the body at extreme flex. Very slight. Now I know why. Thanks again for at least finding my issue

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With only 3 of these reported out of all the FJs on the forum. It would really be nice to hear the whole story on this. This is fishy. Lot's of us wheel extensively, with the same options, and no trouble. Physics isn't random. Is there any more you might be able to tell us? It might be a rare metal defect, but it's hard to imagine.

EDIT: Read my post again. Please don't think I'm doubting your word. I'm just looking for more info. Another thought, have you had a lot of high speed rutted or washboards? Maybe it's something in the design of the ome/shock and their rates. Have you pulled anyone, or had to yank from your bumper tow points. This is so ugly and strange. Makes one a bit worried.
The whole story. Well I bought it because it was a trail rig. I use it as a trail rig. I run trails in the PNW and I took it to Ouray. I crawl over large obstacles and don't land hard. I have flexed the rig quite a bit. The trails I run with it I have run numerus times with my CJ-7 prior to buying the FJ. I'm not new to wheeling and am very sad that this has happened. I truelly love this rig and want this problem figured out before more of us see it. I only have 7000 miles on this rig. I am worried for you all also. This is not good

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