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Uniball tapered bolt stuck in spindle

Hello All,

I have a 2011 FJ cruiser with 2.5 icon coilovers and icon tubular arms with uniballs. I decided after 4 years it was finally time to get my icon shocks services and uniballs replaced with delta joints. I have successfully removed everything except the tapered bolt that goes from the uniball to the spindle. I can't seem to get the driver side off. The nut came off no problem but I can't seem to get this dang bolt out of the spindle. I've tried everything I could think of.
Hitting the side of the spindle does nothing.
Hitting the spindle and the bottom of the tapered bolt at the same time does nothing.
Hitting just the bottom of the tapered bold does nothing.
I've sprayed some WD40 and some penetrant in there about 15 times over the last 5 days.
I've tried an air hammer, but still no luck.

I'm at a loss at this moment and have no idea why this tapered bold won't come out on the driver side. I really don't want to have to remove the spindle from my FJ and I really don't want to drill out the bolt as I fear I might mess up the taper on the spindle. Any suggestion and guidance are very appreciated. Iv been trying to get this out for over 5 days now. Googling doesnt provide much help.


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Have you tried heat?

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Yes actually i forgot to mention that, i have tried heating up the spindle with a torch then banging on both the bolt and spindle with no luck
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Post some pics.
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Re: Uniball tapered bolt stuck in spindle

The tool below seems like the last option with the spindle still attached. An option once off is freezing it and then really smack it.


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Re: Uniball tapered bolt stuck in spindle

The big C-clamp style multi-functional tool (^^^) is the correct, non-destructive way to go. The illustration above shows the tool configured to press a ball joint INTO a control arm, but by configuring the various cups and adapters you can install and remove ball joints, uniball studs, wheel studs, etc. without resorting to any brute-force methods.

In your case, since you have apparently already severely deformed the end of the uniball stud through application of the "bigger hammer will fix it" approach, you may have to grind the end of the stud flat again so the tool doesn't slip off, and the deformed end of the stud can pass through the eye in the spindle.

These tools can usually be borrowed from the larger, chain auto supply stores after a hefty deposit.

(If you are stuck in the jungle, and have no access to the "right" tools, you can try another approach. The objective is to apply a shock load across the tapered hole in the spindle to break the interference fit of the tapered pin. Have a helper hold a heavy steel object (5 lb maul, 10 lb sledge hammer, etc.) tightly against the OPPOSITE side of the eye of the spindle, and strike a very sharp blow with at least a 5 lb maul on the spindle eye, directly opposing the head of the other tool. This will ensure that the energy of the strike is actually delivered into the eye of the spindle, and not just dissipated into moving the spindle.)
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Re: Uniball tapered bolt stuck in spindle

Slow down and set the hammers to the side. The tool OTC 7249 is only around a hundred dollars. Take a small side grinder with a cutting disc and remove the damaged threaded area , then cut the top off at the recessed bevel area. Then take a large socket that leaves a small amount and press it out. It only has to move a .001 or two and it will fall apart. You might be able to to get by with a heavy duty c-clamp and a socket, get some pressure on it with the c-clamp and pop with the hammer. The tool that FJtest recommended would work the best.
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Re: Uniball tapered bolt stuck in spindle

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I'm at a loss at this moment and have no idea why this tapered bold won't come out on
Removing the spindle is very easy. There's only two 19mm bolts underneath to lift the spindle off... at this time, why not?

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To be honest I have a 21 piece ball joint service kit and have never needed it. The smack it with a hammer has always worked. I think the biggest problem with the smack it option is people donít smack it hard enough. Iím referring to 45 yrs of smacking.


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