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Re: Kobalt tools - It's a shame

You bring up a good point, Mark. There are many specialty items like you mentioned that are worth going to Snap-On for.

Another note regarding Kobalt, I bought a big set of their pliers, slip joints, linesmen, needlenose, etc a couple of years ago. The pliers and slip joints are garbage. They do not have a clue on how to make those joints to keep them moving on you.

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Lowe's just re stocked their tools with their new line. Guess what? TAIWAN!!! Couldn't believe it. Still a lifetime guarantee and some pretty good looking tools. I would doubt the quality of the steel and durability of the tools until shown otherwise. Another one bites the dust.

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I bought a Kobalt coping saw the other day... took a few strokes and ripped the plastic handle off. Not good.

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I bought a Kobalt coping saw the other day... took a few strokes and ripped the plastic handle off. Not good.
Yes, but you're a beast Mike.

I've got a mixture of some Proto and SK tools that are 30+ years old and they have been good tools. I've broken a couple of sockets that were replaced with no problems. I also have a pretty big set of Craftsman that are 20+ years old that are the same way and I've only had to replace a couple of sockets.

The really special tools I have are a cheap, off brand, in the bargain bin at (name your place.....Kmart, Walmart, etc.) little metric socket set with a rachet, short and long extension, spark plug socket, and about a dozen sockets in a little plastic box. I bought it almost 35+ years ago for working on my motorcycle. The set has been through 3 motorcycles, 2 VW's, 2 Fords, and 3 Toyotas of my own and several other bikes and vehicles of friends. They've been used, abused, beaten on, used with a cheater, and you name it, I haven't broken any part of the set yet (knock on wood). I paid less than $10.00 for the set. Not to bad of an investment.

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Lowe's just re stocked their tools with their new line. Guess what? TAIWAN!!! Couldn't believe it. Still a lifetime guarantee and some pretty good looking tools. I would doubt the quality of the steel and durability of the tools until shown otherwise. Another one bites the dust.
Taiwan is a definite step up from most Chinese products.

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Re: Kobalt tools - It's a shame

I guess I got the good stuff from the lowes pics. Seven years ago I moved to Ohio and invested around $1000 on tools and have never had an issue with them. I don't use them everyday but every week. Individual long Allen wrenches would be something I would invest some money in I'm tired of cutting the tips off the ones I have currently.

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All my home tools are Snap-on, Craftsmen, Matco, and a few odd and ends... Wont take my good stuff out to the races... to many sticky fingers. God made Harbor Freight for that purpose. Lol. Still amazed on what "grows legs and walks away" out in the desert.

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Re: Kobalt tools - It's a shame

I have always been a Craftsman guy be cause their tools were reasonably priced, US Made, and while not being Snap-on, Matco, or MAC quality, they were good enough for the serious hobbyist. Also they had the advantage of being easily replaced by going to Sears, as opposed to having to deal with a tool truck guy.
Sadly Craftsman appears to be going down the same road as Kobalt. While at Sears this weekend noticed that their latest ratchets are all made in Taiwan. All of the wrenches I looked at with the exception of their standard combo wrenches, and the Professional combo wrenches were made in China or Taiwan. I noticed that the Standard Crossforce wrenches were US made and the Metrics were China or Taiwan. Probably old stock Standards. Sockets, extensions and screwdrivers in their standard line are still US made. Evolv and Universal lines are all import.

There is a pronounced difference in the quality of US vs Taiwan ratchets. Which brings me to the question of the value of the Craftsman Warranty. I would be a seriously upset customer, if I brought in a broken US made Craftsman tool and was handed a Chinese inferior quality tool as a replacement.
This applies to all of you who have quality, older Husky and Kobalt tools as well. If you break those they are absolutely going to be replaced with Chinese/Taiwanese crap. Any thoughts?

I realize this post focuses a lot on country of origin, but in our current economic state I think that supporting US manufacturing is extremely important. And I do think US made tools are of superior quality to those made in elsewhere.
All of this is pushing me to look at reasonably priced, Industrial and Professional brands as an alternative. Armstrong and SK are both pretty readily available on the internet, not too expensive and excellent quality US made tools.

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Re: Kobalt tools - It's a shame

For the price of a really good professional set, I could easily buy 3-5x regular set. I hear the issue with tools breaking, but in this day and age of lifetime warranties, buying 2x sets, breaking one part or set, reverting to using the 2nd set and repairing the first when I have time is still cheaper and arguably less downtime than breaking a part of a single pro-set.

Still using the walmart $10 socket from 12 years ago, and have the 2x costco 200 pc crescent tool sets when they were on clearance for $60.
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Re: Kobalt tools - It's a shame

currently I still have Snap-On, Mac, Craftsman, Husky, and Kobalt. wrenches and sockets.
Our local Lowes really BLowes. They didn`t have squat as far as wrenches or individual sockets. Up until this Christmas season after being open for at least 5 years did they decide to get creative and start stocking individual wrenches and sockets. but they still lack in 6 point and other various common tools.
Unfortunately I still shop craftsman at Sears bc they have a huge selection and most likely have what I need. I also have other brands of specialty tools and Lisle is a decent company as is OTC etc.

I recently went to Homo depot for a 3/8 inpact gun as I did like the husky line, they have the gun but absolutely no 3/8 drive impact sockects, so I asked the floor person and they didn`t have an answer, so off I went to BLowes and bought the Kobalt 3/8 impact gun along with a set of 3/8 metric impact sockets and so far I`m pleased with this little gun...

My air tools consist of Ingersol Rand, Mac, Craftsman, and some cheaper MPP and CH air ratchets and whizzers.

I`m not a big fan of the junk sold at HBF. but I think I bought a 1/2 drive Deep impact sockets in metric that are very good...

my first sockets sets when I was a kid were Husky and that was almost 40 years ago.

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