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I've seen people complaining about how it was done back then why can't I scratch my name too. What they don't realize or know is that was a way for them to communicate with others on the trips across the country. It let family members and others know you had made it to a certain spot. They didn't have phones, internet, etc.
Great example! They left historical markings for education purposes as well. People do it now because they feel entitled to do whatever they want with nature leaving behind a mark that says, I'm a d*ckhead and the world revolves around me! One person carved their name into an aspen tree near where I live and now the entire forest has names carved on every tree and it looks like trash.

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One person carved their name into an aspen tree near where I live and now the entire forest has names carved on every tree and it looks like trash.
I've noticed this quite a few time in Colorado on their trees in certain areas. Animus forks comes to mind also.
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I've noticed this quite a few time in Colorado on their trees in certain areas. Animus forks comes to mind also.
I hate seeing it. It reminds me that Im not in nature and a million people have been there. I'd rather not have that feeling.

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Then there's every person who thinks they need to stack rocks because they are special.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/ra...oo-many-stones
You know, I'm usually overly liberal and have rightly been described as a tree hugger, but this is ridiculous. A stack of rocks will be reduced to rubble by the wind or even a little rain. The point is that it's a temporary change in the environment hardly more significant than the footprints we leave behind.

I'm having a hard time with this even though I really feel like I should agree with the article. :-(

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Has absolutely nothing to do with being liberal or even conservative. Heck, someone tried to convince me with that same argument that it’s no big deal when he did this at at 1200 year old Christian monastery (that also happens to be a UNESCO protected world heritage site). It’s about one simple mantra.

Leave no trace.

It’s not leave a little trace, nor is it leave a stack of rocks so you can leave your ego’s mark. It’s leave no trace.
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Interesting link to Lewis and Clark
https://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/lewisandclark/pom.htm

A few years back someone climbed over the fence and scratched their name next to Clark’s

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You know, I'm usually overly liberal and have rightly been described as a tree hugger, but this is ridiculous. A stack of rocks will be reduced to rubble by the wind or even a little rain. The point is that it's a temporary change in the environment hardly more significant than the footprints we leave behind.



I'm having a hard time with this even though I really feel like I should agree with the article. :-(



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There are these things called laws. Watching your name in the side of a rock in a protected area is against the law in order to protect nature. If there weren’t laws, all the sandstone in our state would be ruined and look like the side of a train that’s been sitting in the inner city. I live here. I hate tourists that think they can come here and leave some message or their name. This isn’t “their” place. This is everyone’s place. One person puts their name. The next person leaves a “F*ck You!” Where does it end? That’s the problem with leaving just ONE etching. Next thing you know, there’s a million.


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Thre is a new thing going on where people are stacking rocks in parks and wilderness areas, not sure why.

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This is a great thread. Very informative . I never understood the rock stacking thing .
People thinking there is some mystical attachment to it. There is not.

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Has absolutely nothing to do with being liberal or even conservative. Heck, someone tried to convince me with that same argument that it’s no big deal when he did this at at 1200 year old Christian monastery (that also happens to be a UNESCO protected world heritage site). It’s about one simple mantra.

Leave no trace.

It’s not leave a little trace, nor is it leave a stack of rocks so you can leave your ego’s mark. It’s leave no trace.
I see your point, on the other hand, I think a little stack of rocks is acceptable since we’ve got much bigger fish to fry when it comes to protecting the environment

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