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Anyone have any advice on filter brands and oil brands for my 2011 FJ when the first oil change comes due?

Amsoil seems to be very, very popular. Is there another brand of filter worthy of consideration for my 2011 FJ? Wix? Purolator? Anything?

Also, I'm not sure what to make of Toyota's 0W-20 oil requirement. Is that best in the Florida heat? I suppose Toyota knows best? Mobil-1 full synthetic 0W-20?

I do tow a light load sometimes, and I am in a lot of stop and go traffic.

Also, I am not towing during the first 5k miles, but I am wondering if I should wait 5k miles before the first oil change? Should I change it at 1k or 2.5k or wait until 5k?

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Don't tow for the first 5K. Use the recommended oil and if you feel you are driving under the severe conditions change at 5K. I would have the dealer do the changes for you, good for records if you have a warranty claim. If you are doing it yourself then get the filter from Toyota ( they use really good filters) if you want to buy the oil get the Mobil1 0w20. Don't try and out do the Toyota engineers that designed your vehicle, follow their recommendations in the owners manual.
 

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I don't know about the 2011, but my 2010 says change synthetic oil every 10,000 miles. In this day and age, oil companies have done great things with oil and oil blends. I really don't think you need to change oil like in the old days. I really don't think Toyota is willing to go to 10,000 miles before oil changes, and risk anything. They don't like warrenty claims!!!!!
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Thanks for the recommendations guys. If the Toyota filter and Mobil 1 0W-20 oil is the way to go, I definitely will.

I have no intention of towing in the first 5k miles. It just seems like a not-so-smart idea to me. Unfortunately, I only put 6k miles per year on my vehicle!

Why does Toyota offer a TRD performance filter? If it is "better" at filtering, shouldn't I use something like that considering my towing and stop-and-go driving conditions? If it filters "better" shouldn't everyone use it?

I still wonder if I should change the oil during the break in period before the first scheduled 5k interval. Maybe I am just paranoid about the break in period.

Any and all feedback welcome.

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Note that Mobil 1 0W-20 is actually priced lower than the Toyota OEM Synthetic.

My local Toyota dealer even offers a choice - they charge more for the Mobil 1 than Wal-Mart, but still less than the Toyota factory synthetic.
 

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Not that I need it with 900 miles on our FJ.. but called around for oil prices.. seems the dealer was a good deal at $7/qt for Toyota brand 0-20. A couple other retailers were $8 for M1.

Was at walmart today.. M1 0-20 was $6.50/qt. They also had a 5qt M1 0-20 jug for $23 ( <$5/qt). Bought 2 5 gallon jug..not that I need it.. but figured good to have on hand.

I have no issue with 10k oil changes.. have it on my Audi TT quattro turbo - 10k on conventional oil. No problems in 120,000 so far! I figure if Audi can do 10k on conventional oil.. Toyota can do 10k with synthetic.
 

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Not that I need it with 900 miles on our FJ.. but called around for oil prices.. seems the dealer was a good deal at $7/qt for Toyota brand 0-20. A couple other retailers were $8 for M1.

Was at walmart today.. M1 0-20 was $6.50/qt. They also had a 5qt M1 0-20 jug for $23 ( <$5/qt). Bought 2 5 gallon jug..not that I need it.. but figured good to have on hand.

I have no issue with 10k oil changes.. have it on my Audi TT quattro turbo - 10k on conventional oil. No problems in 120,000 so far! I figure if Audi can do it on conventional oil.. Toyota can do it with conventional.
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toyota element filter 04152-yzza5 and Mobil 1 0w20 is the way to go.my first oil change i did was @1006 miles 3/18/2011.i parted the filter folds and saw some metal particles in a few of the folds,just as i read it's best to change at the first 1000 instead of waiting for the 5000.i'm going to change it again @2000 and then go with the 5000 miles intervals.
 

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toyota element filter 04152-yzza5 and Mobil 1 0w20 is the way to go.my first oil change i did was @1006 miles 3/18/2011.i parted the filter folds and saw some metal particles in a few of the folds,just as i read it's best to change at the first 1000 instead of waiting for the 5000.i'm going to change it again @2000 and then go with the 5000 miles intervals.
OK, paranoia is setting in on me now. I just hit 1,000 miles. Any other opinions here about whether I should change the oil now or wait until 5k or even 10k as specified in the owner's manual and maintenance schedule? I can't believe Toyota recommends 10k miles during the break in period, but it seems they should know what they are doing. The metal particles mentioned above make me paranoid.

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While new engines do wear much less than before with all the cnc machining and tolerances, wear is wear, and I dont think the FJ engine is pre-broken in for a few hundred miles prior to first use. Stated OCI is fine... filter is doing its job if you see metal in it and none in the oil! But if you want to take the over the top precaution, change out your fluids when you think the break in period is over. My oil (conventional I think for 08) at around 2k mi was jet black and I changed it out asap.
 

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While new engines do wear much less than before with all the cnc machining and tolerances, wear is wear, and I dont think the FJ engine is pre-broken in for a few hundred miles prior to first use. Stated OCI is fine... filter is doing its job if you see metal in it and none in the oil! But if you want to take the over the top precaution, change out your fluids when you think the break in period is over. My oil (conventional I think for 08) at around 2k mi was jet black and I changed it out asap.
OK. After reading this post I had to go outside and check my oil at 1,000 miles. I pulled the dipstick, which is about the longest one I have ever encountered, and the oil is nice and clean. It looks like new oil in fact.

Wondering about the lubrication qualities of 0W-20 oil, I put a drop on two fingers and rubbed them together. Wow, that is very slippery stuff, even if it is thin.

Since Toyota says I can go 10k miles before my first oil change, I figure I am being reasonably conservative changing it at 5k miles or 6 months or when it appears black and dirty, which ever comes first.

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fj florida do u do your own oil change?don't wait do it now get rid of that oil asap,you'll feel better evertime you on the gas
I only have 1,100 miles so far, so I have not had the oil changed yet. I have researched how to change the cartridge filter, and I have done my own oil changes for about the past 25 years. Fully prepared to keep doing so as necessary. At 1,100 miles, the factory oil seems very, very clean.

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it will look clean but it's not about the clean look of the oil,it's about the micro grid that might slip pass the filter,nothing is 100 % not even the filter,thats why u want to change the oil.i had 1006 miles on my fj when i did it last weekend,you spend alot of money on the truck,don't cheap out to save 50 bucks.50 bucks now or headachs later,save your records on your oil changes
 

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it will look clean but it's not about the clean look of the oil,it's about the micro grid that might slip pass the filter,nothing is 100 % not even the filter,thats why u want to change the oil.i had 1006 miles on my fj when i did it last weekend,you spend alot of money on the truck,don't cheap out to save 50 bucks.50 bucks now or headachs later,save your records on your oil changes
OK. I'll get the stuff. I can't get the filter from Toyota today. Maybe tomorrow (Monday).

Again at 5k and every 5k thereafter? I intend to drive this FJ until the doors fall off, and I want that to be a long time.

Anyone know exactly where the filter is located on the 2011 FJ? It seems to be behind one of the skid plates?

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OK. I'll get the stuff. I can't get the filter from Toyota today. Maybe tomorrow (Monday).

Again at 5k and every 5k thereafter? I intend to drive this FJ until the doors fall off, and I want that to be a long time.

Anyone know exactly where the filter is located on the 2011 FJ? It seems to be behind one of the skid plates?

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driver side above the skid plate.

So is the official recommended interval from Toyota 5,000 or 10,000? Plan on doing mine at 5,000 but would like to know.
 

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driver side above the skid plate.

So is the official recommended interval from Toyota 5,000 or 10,000? Plan on doing mine at 5,000 but would like to know.
From the 2011 Toyota FJ Maintenance Schedule:

10k oil change intervals, except 5k oil change intervals if the statement below applies:

"Extensive idling and/or low speed driving for a long distance such as police, taxi or door-to-door delivery use:
Replace engine oil and oil filter."

The oil is 0W-20:

"NOTE: Your vehicle is factory filled and certified with Genuine Toyota 0W20 motor oil. For VEHICLES CERTIFIED FOR 0W20 motor oil, the oil change interval is 10,000 miles or 12 months IF 0W20 MOTOR OIL IS BEING USED.

If 0W20 is not available, 5W20 mineral oil may be used. However, it must be replaced at 5,000 miles or 6 month INTERVAL with 0W20 motor oil.

For customers who primarily drive their vehicle under any of the listed Special Operating Conditions, the motor oil and filter should be replaced at 5,000 miles or 6 months, REGARDLESS OF THE OIL USED (OR CERTIFICATION OF THE VEHICLE)."

For those of you with 2010's, I just posted the maintenance schedule for 2010 here:

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/foru...on-2011-oil-filter-operation.html#post1864761

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