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So I've had an interesting day. Why might someone from Houston be asking about snorkels today, of all days? The mind boggles...

Is there a snorkel available for the 2014 FJ that goes through the fender directly into the CAI? I've been planning to put a second battery in that space behind the intake.

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I, like many people, was caught out at work today when the whole situation started to crater. By the
time I was able to get out, the whole city was starting to flood. I detoured south until the freeways
turned into parking lots, then started taking surface streets. All of which were flooded.

Right about this time I got a call from my wife that our cul-de-sac was flooding, which happens if the
drains get clogged by debris. She just had leg surgery, and all our neighbors are elderly. So much for
just parking someplace, which I was starting to consider.

At one point I took a turn and my windshield wipers immediately started to make a new sound that sounded
just like "unh-unh" which kinda freaked me out. On the premise that if my FJ is saying 'NO" I should
listen, I backtracked at that point.

The FJ got me home in time to unclog the drains. We only got about 11 inches, but it fell really
quickly. And now my wife is now REQUIRING me to put in a snorkel. Who am I to argue?
 

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Sorry for your predicament. If I had one I would uninstall it and drive it to you right now. Please let us know what we can do.
My wife's family is from and all mostly still in Puerto Rico. We were blessed to raise money and do some recovery work after Maria. Unfortunately there is no fast recovery and people forget quickly. Keep it on our radar. People here are very giving with their knowledge and I am sure their help/ money if asked. Everyone needs a helping hand at some time in their life. Please let us know the actual situation.
 

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thanks! I'm okay and appreciate the shout, but really I'm just looking for information on what snorkel might work for my ride, without occupying that space behind the stock CAI.
 

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Thanks very much for the link- that is indeed helpful and a great starting place.

I'm curious to hear a little more of your opinion, if you don't mind, on why the snorkel doesn't add much. It seems like you would get at least a few inches more water clearance. I'm guessing that once the battery terminals get submerged the engine is probably going to shut off, but that's part of the reason I want to put a spare battery in that behind-the-CAI space. It would gain another couple of inches at least.
 

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Is it true that the 2010-2014 all have the CAI in the same place? It sure looks like it when I compare the photo in that thread to mine. That would help a lot.
 

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Is it true that the 2010-2014 all have the CAI in the same place? It sure looks like it when I compare the photo in that thread to mine. That would help a lot.
Yep, same layout.
I'm in Spring Branch/Memorial area; got slammed!
I was in above axle water for a bit.
I have a snorkel, its an ebay knock-off, less than $100.00, but works fine.
I also have a dual battery set-up; mine is up front of the airbox (ARB compressor sits in the rear space)
A SCUBA kit is what you really need. It relocates the engine/trans breathers to the roof. Check this thread
He is a local Houstonian, "Rawmind Engineering"(?). Not sure if he still makes the kit.
I feel a bit safer w/ the scuba mod & snorkel.

HTH & glad y'all are OK!
D :cowsmile:
 

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Others will more than likely chime in but from my limited knowledge, the snorkel is designed to act more like an air ram and force cooler air into the intake from up higher on the vehicle where it encounters a larger airflow than it does from the wheel well. Your biggest concern with water and flooding isn't the battery, it's the floor boards. All your wiring is located underneath them. Again, just my basic understanding.
 

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Nice! We're neighbors. I live not far from the middle school/high school.

I was on the northeast side of town; all of I-10 and 610 were already black on the phone map so I eventually got to 59 South. I got through downtown and midtown quickly, but then it turned into a parking lot so I got off and started working my way west on Richmond and West Alabama, which already wasn't possible in a car. Probably should have gone through Bellaire instead. Sketchiest part was going under 610 on Richmond - water was tire high, splashing over the hood, all the way past Sage. Westheimer was fine past Fountainview.

That SCUBA mod looks awesome. That is exactly the kind of thing I am looking for. I know a company that makes small manifolds and fittings. I will definitely look into that.
 

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Your biggest concern with water and flooding isn't the battery, it's the floor boards. All your wiring is located underneath them. Again, just my basic understanding.
OK, this is more good info- thank you so much. I will inspect this area as best I know how when I have it jacked up for the SCUBA breather mod.

I can say for sure though that this floorboard wiring thing is not an acute, right now, kills the vehicle kind of problem. I drove, by rough guesstimation, maybe seven miles over about ninety minutes where the floorboards were at least repeatedly drenched, if not entirely submerged, the entire time.

(As I type that I'm thinking that Houston might be the only city in the US so flat, straight, and repeatedly underwater for that to be possible.)
 

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Thanks very much for the link- that is indeed helpful and a great starting place.

I'm curious to hear a little more of your opinion, if you don't mind, on why the snorkel doesn't add much. It seems like you would get at least a few inches more water clearance. I'm guessing that once the battery terminals get submerged the engine is probably going to shut off, but that's part of the reason I want to put a spare battery in that behind-the-CAI space. It would gain another couple of inches at least.


To me, if you can lift the whole vehicle a few inches higher, that’s more effective than moving the FJ’s air intake above your own. At max fording depth, you won’t swamp it unless you’re going too fast.



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I can say for sure though that this floorboard wiring thing is not an acute, right now, kills the vehicle kind of problem. I drove, by rough guesstimation, maybe seven miles over about ninety minutes where the floorboards were at least repeatedly drenched, if not entirely submerged, the entire time.
I should clarify. Inside the truck, under the plastic flooring. If your submerging the door frame long enough, you will have water ingress. My understanding is that you want to avoid that if at all possible.
 

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I should clarify. Inside the truck, under the plastic flooring. If your submerging the door frame long enough, you will have water ingress. My understanding is that you want to avoid that if at all possible.
Aha! Now I understand. A good reason to lift the truck. See next.

I also will need to think about the audio gear I have installed under the passenger seat.
 

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To me, if you can lift the whole vehicle a few inches higher, that’s more effective than moving the FJ’s air intake above your own. At max fording depth, you won’t swamp it unless you’re going too fast.
You know, I believe you are correct, and so is Phunk, so let's do that too.

I'm currently happily running 285/70R17 with no lift, 12mm wheel offset and a BMC I did myself, so I wouldn't really call it aggressive.

After some measuring, I can raise the overall height 6 inches and still get in and out of my garage. I would appreciate any direction about a tire/lift combo. I don't do a lot of offroad driving.
 

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A snorkel is mostly to get clean air up high for the engine while driving in extremely dusty conditions.

A scuba conversion involves moving a number of breathers (and adding some to parts which normally don't, like starter and alternator), to avoid having to replace wheel bearings, etc. a few months later (or from having to replace all fluids the next day, to save all of the bearings).


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