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Looking for some advise. Was back country camping to get away from people. In a 150,000+ hectare public land use zone

All is good for a couple nights then some asshats decide to setup not 20' from us!? Seriously!?

How does one discourage such behaviour, in an appropriate fashion? Dealing with rednecks here, so their mentality is usually quite limited.
 

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That's a tough one. I've lucked out so far in my backwoods camping spots. If I ever did have campers come nearby they utilized a spot a ways away from me.... and turned out to be great people too.

I would try to talk to them before they are set up and explain that you camped there to get away from people and would appreciate a greater distance between your 2 parties.... maybe tell them they are downrange on your makeshift shooting range... :lol:
 

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That's a tough one. I've lucked out so far in my backwoods camping spots. If I ever did have campers come nearby they utilized a spot a ways away from me.... and turned out to be great people too.

I would try to talk to them before they are set up and explain that you camped there to get away from people and would appreciate a greater distance between your 2 parties.... maybe tell them they are downrange on your makeshift shooting range... :lol:

I have indeed met many nice people backcountry

However we just did not want to see, hear, be around people at all for a few days

I should have approached them as soon as they parked and that's my mistake. Just not always sure how to broach the subject

Other than packing some tannerite for next time ;). They did complain loudly about the noise my .270 was making but didn't get the hint.
 

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I have indeed met many nice people backcountry

However we just did not want to see, hear, be around people at all for a few days

I should have approached them as soon as they parked and that's my mistake. Just not always sure how to broach the subject

Other than packing some tannerite for next time ;). They did complain loudly about the noise my .270 was making but didn't get the hint.
There was one spot I was at that was essentially a quad in or fly-in only spot.... that I got to with the FJ :lol:

Sure enough a float plane lands and comes to shore and 2 little heads pop out of the windows and shout "we're going to be your neighbours!".

I was a little put off at first but they settled into a spot out of sight at the far end of the beach and we got to know each other, great people luckily.
It didn't hurt that their kids and our kids ended up being the same age and played well together.
And they only stayed one night.... we were there for 10 days.
 

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I'm sure you're great ppl and all... but what are they thinking...
I try to be a pretty kind person in life for what it's worth. Just lots of stress with life right now

I'm not kidding when I say they setup 20 feet from us

Ended up coming home a day early as it was too much for my nerves

Thinking of bringing a set of Klipsch Heresy's I have kicking around for next time. And putting Abba / Japanese opera on repeat until they get the hint next time.

I do suck at approaching people in situations like this so more constructive advice is heavily welcomed.
 

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You just have to get out of your comfort zone if/when people approach and/or set up camp near you.... get out and speak with them as soon as possible... with a big smile... and politely ask them to go somewhere else.

Or find a little hidey-hole where you take up all the available space in the little niche and they CAN'T set up near you. We're essentially at that stage now... not much space left at the little beach we go to and there is dense bush all around.
(if you zoom in you can see the little beach)
 

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You just have to get out of your comfort zone if/when people approach and/or set up camp near you.... get out and speak with them as soon as possible... with a big smile... and politely ask them to go somewhere else.

Or find a little hidey-hole where you take up all the available space in the little niche and they CAN'T set up near you. We're essentially at that stage now... not much space left at the little beach we go to and there is dense bush all around.
(if you zoom in you can see the little beach)

Nice!

Talking this out I think a noisy smelly generator pointed out in the direction people may setup next to us may discourage them enough to keep moving

As is we were pretty tucked away
 

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if it is that upsetting, then one other tactic, if you've missed the opportunity to ask them to move on when they first got there, and they show no signs of leaving and it is driving you crazy, is to move on yourself and find another place and let it go ("I came here to relax, not to work myself up about something that someone else did/is doing").


When I first started going to Japan (around 20 or 30 years ago) westerners were pretty uncommon out in the smaller cities and the people I worked with said, "everyone is so unfriendly, they stare and stare". Which was strange for me to hear because whenever I found someone looking at me I smiled and waved and they went crazy and were so friendly. It turned out they treated you like you were Mick Jagger or Charlize Theron, but would not approach until given the opening.

I bring this up only to add to what some of the others had posted above, sometimes the most unexpectedly enjoyable parts of a trip can be the people that you meet quite by accident along the way, but it definitely does require being in the mindset to be open to it and to enjoy it when it does.

I know, it sounds like saying, "oh, just don't let them bother you", which is, of course, useless advice parents give to bullied kids, and that is not they way I mean it.


I am sorry that it was so upsetting that it cut your trip short.

Norm "going with the flow isn't easy, but can be rewarding, sometimes" Kerr
 

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I try to be a pretty kind person in life for what it's worth. Just lots of stress with life right now

I'm not kidding when I say they setup 20 feet from us

Ended up coming home a day early as it was too much for my nerves

Thinking of bringing a set of Klipsch Heresy's I have kicking around for next time. And putting Abba / Japanese opera on repeat until they get the hint next time.

I do suck at approaching people in situations like this so more constructive advice is heavily welcomed.
Check out the book crucial conversations. It's a quick read and I have found it helps me in situations such as this.
 

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@norm356 I know what you mean I was overseas a good bit in my old life. Not every person is as foreigner hating as were lead to believe. There are more curious and good people than bad. Many times just as "city folk" come to the backwoods to get away from people, "backwoods people" enjoying a different neck of the outdoors don't mind running into new people. I live in the country and love the peace and quiet that's our day to day. Sometimes it's nice to meet new people enjoying the same great outdoors.
 

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I have indeed met many nice people backcountry

However we just did not want to see, hear, be around people at all for a few days

I should have approached them as soon as they parked and that's my mistake. Just not always sure how to broach the subject

Other than packing some tannerite for next time ;). They did complain loudly about the noise my .270 was making but didn't get the hint.
Yep, didn't pull the trigger quick enough on that one.
 

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I snore loudly. I have an app on my phone that records my snoring and grades it.
I score in a range of loud - very loud - epic, and it changes its attributes throughout the night, and it stops and starts. It's much worse when I've been drinking.
I can send you a recording if you like.
 

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Looking for some advise. Was back country camping to get away from people. In a 150,000+ hectare public land use zone

All is good for a couple nights then some asshats decide to setup not 20' from us!? Seriously!?

How does one discourage such behaviour, in an appropriate fashion? Dealing with rednecks here, so their mentality is usually quite limited.
I have an offroad trailer so have the luxury of being able to take a fair bit of gear with me. One of the extra pieces of gear I always take with me is a second tent. The places I go are pretty remote, but if I am somewhere where there is room for another camper to fit in, that's when I setup the second tent and preemptively make it difficult or impossible for another group to fit in beside us.

I do this primarily because despite trying to train her to be nice my dog is just not good with strangers and I really don't want to see someone get bitten, and me possibly get sued.
 

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What about a sign:

Out here for Quiet and Solitude
But happy to help if you need anything - just ask

How does that sound?
 

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I have an offroad trailer so have the luxury of being able to take a fair bit of gear with me. One of the extra pieces of gear I always take with me is a second tent. The places I go are pretty remote, but if I am somewhere where there is room for another camper to fit in, that's when I setup the second tent and preemptively make it difficult or impossible for another group to fit in beside us.

I do this primarily because despite trying to train her to be nice my dog is just not good with strangers and I really don't want to see someone get bitten, and me possibly get sued.

I have thought of this - pickup a cheapie popup and stake out a bit of an area.

I'm not a greedy person - far from it. But when one just wants peace and solitude...
 
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