[redboat]

Took my FJ in for alignment this morning and the tech says the right front adjustment cam is broken . The other one is frozen and can't be moved . Any ideas ? :mecry:
Redboat

 

[Joeg180]

Recip saw...
and a boatload of blades

 

[SKINUM]

Have you tried jacking the vehicle up to take pressure off the lca?

 

[bandi]

Joe knows what he is talking about... It is a very typical thing... The adjustable bolts seize inside the bushing since the factory does not use antisieze during assembly...

The best thing is to do this when the FJ is new/newer, and pull the bolts and add antisieze from the get go, even just have a garage do it... otherwis, you will be buying 4 sets of bushings, bolts, nuts, adjuster rings, etc....

I am ordering two sets myself, since I have two FJ's, and both will be needing an alignment soon....

 

[redboat]

Thanks for the info . The tech said its safe to drive , unable to adjust out caster , vehicle may pull to the right . Drove OK on the way home .
Looks like I have a project to do next spring when the weather warms up .
Redboat

 

[DocThrottle]

Yep... I too know your pain. I had to cut em apart and replace all the eccentrics, bolts and bushings too. Needless to say, they went back together with all the of the anti-seize I could find in the shop.

 

[redboat]

WOW ! Looks like $300 just for the 4 bushings , 4 cams and 4 plates ( both sides ) . Maybe I'll just do the right side only since those are the bad ones .
Redboat

 

[SKINUM]

I ran into the same issue and finally got the bolt to break free. However, the alignment shop I go 2 says something is bent; can't tell me exactly what though. I thought about just upgrading the LCA's to total chaos. Does anyone know of any other options out there?

 

[fj6high]

The tech doing my allignment could not loosen the cam bolts...I couldn't believe the man didn't have a big cheater bar or a pipe!!!He was afraid to strip or break someting. I came back with a 3/4 drive 42" breaker bar and told the man...watch and learn! They didn't even offer me a discount.

 

[Imperial AT-FJ]

Yeah I came across this when installing my lift! Had to cut the bolts off and press in new bushings. Spent a whole day on the lift at work, heating and prying. Nothing worked!

Needless to stay, when reinstalling they were coated properly with anti-seize!

 

[NW FJC]

Started a new thread on this but I feel this is an item that NEEDS to be bumped regularly for the new FJ owners... If I'de known I would have done some preventive maintenance on this... Now I'm playing chess with the dealer as a warranty item.... evidently alignment is only warrantied for 12 months. I don't want an alignment, I just want the bolts not to be seized... It's like the insurance deal... Well Mr NW, your insurance covers the fall but not hitting the ground!...

 

[jasonomni]

for those that have installed new bushings did you use the energy suspension or oem?

How difficult is the install?

Do you have to melt the factory bushings out?

Anyone done a write up yet?

 

[Joeg180]

for those that have installed new bushings did you use the energy suspension or oem?

How difficult is the install?

Do you have to melt the factory bushings out?

Anyone done a write up yet?

Look at Bandi's build thread.

 

[WaJohnZ]

RB, it sounds like time is on your side until spring anyway, why not try soaking the pivoting area completely and frequently with a good rust penetrating lube. This may free up the frozen parts enough to save some of the parts , for example you may save the cams or may not need to cut apart with a sawzall.

 

[08AZSANDSTORM]

I just replaced all my upper and lower bushings with poly's. The rear LCA bolt has valleys that run the length of it that connect to the adjuster nut on the cam. These fill with what ever you drive through over the years. They end up welding themselves together. I did sawsall mine out and then pressed the bolt out of the cam. If your going to do a DIY you need a press. Also dont beat the hell out of the cams to remove from the body mount brackets, you'll have to widen with a prybar to remove LCA. I think the new bolt was $21 and the cam was $25. You can reuse the cam if you dont beat it up. I know this cause I beat the hell out of it not knowing any better. You aint hammering it out of the bushing..

 

[BacktoFutureToyota]

Hence my request for anyone with OEM LCAs laying around in the "wanted for free" thread. I found a replacement bolt kit with greasing points to prevent seize in the future. Thought I'd give it a try and see how they work and do a write up on it.

 

[bandi]

for those that have installed new bushings did you use the energy suspension or oem?

How difficult is the install?

Do you have to melt the factory bushings out?

Anyone done a write up yet?

Using energy suspension polly bushing, you will need to carefully grind the integral oem washers apart from the oem sleeves as it is required to re-use the washers along with the ES bushings and sleeves...

Using oem bushings, you need to use a cutter chisel (best with air chisel, 90 degree tip) on the outer shell of the bushing to separate it from the lca, they are purposely installed dry so to seize with the lca to lock them in position... no need for melting, and using a press will only twist the lca..

 

[bandi]

Hence my request for anyone with OEM LCAs laying around in the "wanted for free" thread. I found a replacement bolt kit with greasing points to prevent seize in the future. Thought I'd give it a try and see how they work and do a write up on it.

an option would be here at rock auto... a cheap knockoff for $126each...
2009 TOYOTA FJ CRUISER 4.0L V6 Suspension : Control Arm Auto Parts

 

[Bonomonster]

You can get new LCAs with bushings on Ebay for under $90 shipped including new bushings and ball joints.... The ones I got are made by Febest and seem to be decent quality.... Also, look up Whiteline bushings. They have poly LCA Bushing sets that include the sleeves and are ready to press into LCA for around $165

 

[bandi]

What worked the best for getting the seized bolts/sleeves loose was a hammer tip on my air chisel gun.... of course along with the use of penetrating oil of sorts... and before attempting anything, get a set of parts ahead of time in case something gets destroyed...

I looked up a 2010 (list shows 07 - 09 also)... only parts there is not clarity on it the two STD PARTS, ie: bolts and nuts, I would just order both sets, since they aren't much, and you don't want to be stuck without... When I did Joedaps', the bolts ended being the wrong ones, and I believe the nuts too, but we were able to save those from his original set...

As far as buying parts, ordering online from TRDSparks, TRDSourse, or TRDParts4U will save you a bundle over the local dealer costs, unless you have a connection at a local dealer

Rearward Cam Parts
48190 CAM ASSY, CAMBER ADJUST, QTY RQD 2
48190-60020 (01/2006 - 07/2009)
48190-60040 (08/2009 - 10/2010)

48198 CAM, CAMBER ADJUST, NO.2, QTY RQD 2
48198-60011 (01/2006 - 07/2009)
48198-60020 (08/2009 - 10/2010)

NUT, QTY RQD 2
90178-16007 *** STD. PART
or
90179-14069 *** STD. PART

(note both LH & RH are the same, even tho' description list LH & RH)
48655D BUSH, FRONT LOWER ARM, NO.2 RH, QTY RQD 1
48655-60030 (01/2006 - 07/2009)
48655-60050 (08/2009 - 10/2010)

48655E BUSH, FRONT LOWER ARM, NO.2 LH, QTY RQD 1
48655-60030 (01/2006 - 07/2009)
48655-60050 (08/2009 - 10/2010)

Frontward Cam Parts
48452B PLATE, FRONT SUSPENSION TOE ADJUST, NO.2, QTY RQD 2
48452-35020 (01/2006 - 07/2009)
48452-60020 (08/2009 - 10/2010)

48409D CAM SUB-ASSY, FRONT SUSPENSION TOE ADJUST, QTY RQD 2
48409-60020 (01/2006 - 07/2009)
48409-60040 (08/2009 - 10/2010)

BOLT, QTY RQD 2
90119-14120 *** STD. PART
or
90119-16005 *** STD. PART

(note both LH & RH are the same, even tho' description list LH & RH)
48654E BUSH, FRONT LOWER ARM, NO.1 RH, QTY RQD 1
48654-60030 (01/2006 - 07/2009)
48654-60050 (08/2009 - 10/2010)

48654F BUSH, FRONT LOWER ARM, NO.1 LH, QTY RQD 1
48654-60030 (01/2006 - 07/2009)
48654-60050 (08/2009 - 10/2010)

Here below are the bolt/nut/sleeve/cam I got for my 07' FJ...

2 each 48409-60020

2 each 90178-A0001

2 each 48198-60011

2 each 90119-14120

2 each 48190-60020

2 each 48452-35020

and the front and rear bushings...
2 each FRONT LOWER ARM BUSHING, NO.1 (frontward)
48654-60030

2 each FRONT LOWER ARM BUSHING, NO.2 (rearward)
48655-60030


Hope this all helps someone... :thinkerg: