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Hey guys as most of you know I've put 100s of system together for members with a resume of about 3000 PMs so far so i though i would make a sticky for a few options for a basic auto system , this isn't meant to replace PMs to me I'm glad to help everyone but this will give a basic guidelines for a aftermarket system...a lot depends on everyone's budget and systems can be done for a few hundred dollars to the sky's the limit...I'm a keep it simply guy using good gear and mapping out any system correctly...matching gear up is important also like cheap amps with high-end component or vise versa etc a big no no ...so sticking with quality gear is important my go to brands are Alpine , JL Audio ,Pioneer, AD Design ,Hertz some Rockford and Kicker etc

HEAD-UNITS people can do a single din or double din either works depending on budget features you want etc its all personal preference the key things you DO want to look for in a headunit for SQ is 24-Bit DAC ,9 Band Parametric EQ and 3 Pre-Outs (4V) front/rear/sub
which gives you the option of adding to the system at a later date ...my favorite brand head-units are Alpine and Pioneer the higher end Kenwoods are great and Sony is making pretty good head units.

SPEAKERS their are several options in this area i will try to cover them all , front dash (tweeters) front door (6x9s) or (6-1/2 or 6-3/4) rear door (5-1/4) and rear pillars (3-1/2) ... JL Audio is my go to brand on speakers on speaker setup, you can go a full range system (6x9s in the doors and tweeters in the dash) rear speakers optional but not necessary, you can do this setup with or with out a amp i DO recommend a small amp at least though like the 4 Channel Alpine Power Pack , This setup with a good head-unit is the least expensive option but still gives you great sound ...next is a two way component speaker setup which would be 6-3/4 midbass drivers in the door and tweeters in the dash with a sub in back (many sub options can be had) the sub is personal preference from 2-12" subs to a shallow mount 10" like a JL TW3... let me clarify that you don't need huge subs one quality 10" sub will give you plenty of bass and of course JL Audio is my go to brand for subs , Alpine makes a good sub and the higher end kickers aren't bad ...this component system would require a 3 channel amp , the JL XDv2 500/3 is the perfect amp ..the 2 way component speaker setup with a sub and amp is my go to system and highly recommend

AMPS JL Audio ,Alpine ,higher end Rockford and Kicker all great amps several other brands also , with a full range system (4 speaker setup) a 4 channel amp will fit most apps... 5 channel amp with a (4 speaker setup with a sub) and with a 2 channels component system with a sub a 3 channel amp applies many variations from their depending on speaker setup

SYSTEM NECESSITIES quality RCAs & Speaker Wire, Sound Deadening (a real must) Bass Control Knobs like the JL Audio RBC-1 , 4 AWG Amp Kit , dash kit , speaker adapters , steering wheel control interface (Metra Axxess ASWC-1) SiriusXM SXV300v1 Connect Vehicle Tuner Kit etc

1. Set your needs and system goals
2. Set a budget (keep in mind the add on RCAs , sound deadening etc
3. Self install yourself or Car Audio Shop
4. buying online (i recommend Crutchfield) full warranty no tax etc or buying at a Car Audio Shop etc

this covers the bases i will add to this later or feel free to chime in, new threads and PMs are always welcome

The Audio Dude
 

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Nice work man! I think this will be a popular thread indeed. Can I add one thing, and it's just my humble opinion..most will likely know this already anyways but your system will only sound as good as the speakers that are playing the sound. If you have a limited budget, then your money is best spent on a good set of speakers before the rest of the components in the chain. Also, if you haven't yet, I highly suggest damping as much of your interior as possible. This alone will make a huge upgrade to the sound of the factory system and will make every dollar your spend if you aftermarket system that much more worthwhile. I guess that was two points.




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$500 Base Stereo Upgrade

This upgrade recipe was put together in October 2015 with help from ZOSO and others, and involves replacing the awful base FJC stereo. Door speakers are replaced with 6x9s, and dash speakers are replaced with silk-dome tweeters. No rear speakers are involved - the base stereo doesn't come with them, and they really aren't needed for a good soundstage up front.

At that time, the total for all of these pieces was $503.97 from the jungle. Almost all of these parts are still available to the best of my knowledge, but prices may have changed somewhat though I doubt they have gone up much. Also please note that one of my goals was to install a single DIN stereo and a 2-meter ham unit in the double-DIN spot the factory stereo was occupying. Those wishing to keep a double-DIN stereo can just substitute in a different head unit.

Hey, at the very least you get the part numbers for adapters and such :)

*Alpine CDE-153EBT Single Din CD Car Stereo $139.95 (Note: this unit might not be available now. Sub the single or double DIN head unit of your choice.)
*Alpine KTP-445A - 4-Channel 45W RMS X 4 at 4-Ohms Amplifier $90.95
*JL Audio C2-690tx 6x9-Inch 3 Way Speakers $132.49
*JL AUDIO C2-075ct 0.75" TWEETERS $72.95
*Metra 95-8202 Toyota DDIN Multi Dash Kit $7.99
*2 of Metra 72-8104 Speaker Connector for Select Toyota Vehicles $5.91
*Metra 82-8146 Front Speaker Adapter for Select Toyota Vehicles 6X9-Inch, (Black) $14.88
*Metra 70-1761 Radio Wiring Harness for Toyota 87-Up Power 4 Speaker $3.75
*Noico 80 Mil X 18 Sq Ft Self-adhesive Foil & Butyl Mat Audio Deadening $35.10 (sound deadening for doors)

My preference is for clean, clear sound with non-boomy bass, and that is what I have. I have had this setup for over a year now, and once I found the right EQ settings I have been entirely satisfied with the sound quality.

A FEW THOUGHTS ON INSTALL:
* If you want to install CB or Ham units in the dash along with the stereo, look at the Cobra 18 WX ST II for CB and the Kenwood TM-281A for 2-meter ham. Both of these units have speakers on the faceplate, which is great for in-dash installation. The Kenwood requires shimming as it is smaller than DIN size; I used composite construction shims from the hardware store.
* for the dash tweeters, I used a piece of perforated metal strapping strung between the mounting points for the factory speakers, and screwed the tweeters to that.
* I didn't string new speaker wire (which is why the Metra speaker connectors are listed above). Sue me. :)
* You'll want to pull the dust protective plastic off of the doors to install the sound deadening to the outside sheet metal (this step is worth it to cut down on unwanted resonance). Use a hair dryer to heat up the adhesive and it will pull off easily. Also use the hair dryer when sticking it back down afterwards.
 

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Nice job on this! I'll be referencing this post soon! ;)
 

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Hey guys as most of you know I've put 100s of system together for members with a resume of about 3000 PMs so far so i though i would make a sticky for a few options for a basic auto system , this isn't meant to replace PMs to me I'm glad to help everyone but this will give a basic guidelines for a aftermarket system...a lot depends on everyone's budget and systems can be done for a few hundred dollars to the sky's the limit...I'm a keep it simply guy using good gear and mapping out any system correctly...matching gear up is important also like cheap amps with high-end component or vise versa etc a big no no ...so sticking with quality gear is important my go to brands are Alpine , JL Audio ,Pioneer, AD Design ,Hertz some Rockford and Kicker etc

HEAD-UNITS people can do a single din or double din either works depending on budget features you want etc its all personal preference the key things you DO want to look for in a headunit for SQ is 24-Bit DAC ,9 Band Parametric EQ and 3 Pre-Outs (4V) front/rear/sub
which gives you the option of adding to the system at a later date ...my favorite brand head-units are Alpine and Pioneer the higher end Kenwoods are great and Sony is making pretty good head units.

SPEAKERS their are several options in this area i will try to cover them all , front dash (tweeters) front door (6x9s) or (6-1/2 or 6-3/4) rear door (5-1/4) and rear pillars (3-1/2) ... JL Audio is my go to brand on speakers on speaker setup, you can go a full range system (6x9s in the doors and tweeters in the dash) rear speakers optional but not necessary, you can do this setup with or with out a amp i DO recommend a small amp at least though like the 4 Channel Alpine Power Pack , This setup with a good head-unit is the least expensive option but still gives you great sound ...next is a two way component speaker setup which would be 6-3/4 midbass drivers in the door and tweeters in the dash with a sub in back (many sub options can be had) the sub is personal preference from 2-12" subs to a shallow mount 10" like a JL TW3... let me clarify that you don't need huge subs one quality 10" sub will give you plenty of bass and of course JL Audio is my go to brand for subs , Alpine makes a good sub and the higher end kickers aren't bad ...this component system would require a 3 channel amp , the JL XDv2 500/3 is the perfect amp ..the 2 way component speaker setup with a sub and amp is my go to system and highly recommend

AMPS JL Audio ,Alpine ,higher end Rockford and Kicker all great amps several other brands also , with a full range system (4 speaker setup) a 4 channel amp will fit most apps... 5 channel amp with a (4 speaker setup with a sub) and with a 2 channels component system with a sub a 3 channel amp applies many variations from their depending on speaker setup

SYSTEM NECESSITIES quality RCAs & Speaker Wire, Sound Deadening (a real must) Bass Control Knobs like the JL Audio RBC-1 , 4 AWG Amp Kit , dash kit , speaker adapters , steering wheel control interface (Metra Axxess ASWC-1) SiriusXM SXV300v1 Connect Vehicle Tuner Kit etc

1. Set your needs and system goals
2. Set a budget (keep in mind the add on RCAs , sound deadening etc
3. Self install yourself or Car Audio Shop
4. buying online (i recommend Crutchfield) full warranty no tax etc or buying at a Car Audio Shop etc

this covers the bases i will add to this later or feel free to chime in, new threads and PMs are always welcome

The Audio Dude

Hey Bud, thanks for the Info. I have done many systems, but never an Fj.
so can you explain the Overhead Exciter speakers to me, all info I've found is vague.
What size are they?
Is the signal from the Factory head unit a full range signal?
I'm looking at Installing:
Kenwood Excelon Double Din, with Steering wheel controls
Infinity 6x9 Components in Front
Infinity BassLink II in the Rear
Can you R&R with Aftermarket?

I feel like I want Rear Speakers????
 

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Those exciter are like a 1” thick or less ,they don’t do much of any, no need to replace them , rear speakers would benefit someone sitting in the back aren’t going to help out much up front , some people still want them I suggest just running them off the headunit and use an amp for the front speakers
 

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Looks like good basic information for the most part. Although, I’ve seen the recommendation of full range coax speakers in the front doors and tweeters in the dash a few times on here now. And I’m surprised to see it as a recommendation, because it’s not something we would recommend doing in the industry since before the FJ was produced. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not that it won’t work or fill the FJ with sound. But putting tweeters up high in the door, dash or A-pillar of vehicles was something we used to do back in the day to band-aid poorly placed speakers and help elevate the soundstage to the proper level. We also did this because component speakers used to cost so much, and most weren’t very efficient. But the industry shifted as vehicle manufacturers started to add components to vehicles, and better think their speaker placement. And aftermarket companies started making components more cost effective, or designing their coax’s with tweeters that angled to help with imaging. And a huge problem we ran into back then by adding tweeters to a full range speaker is while it elevated the soundstage we then had a system that was unbalanced with too much high frequency. To help explain as everyone might not know the difference of coax vs component, or soundstage. A coax speaker is one that houses all the frequencies in one speaker, mid bass, mid range & high range. A component speaker separates all those same frequencies into two or three separate speakers. Soundstage is basically the placement of speakers/frequencies to best reflect how it’s meant to be heard. Think of it this way would you rather listen to a performance from above the stage and all the sound comes from below you? Be below the stage and everything comes from above you? Or be at the same level as the stage and you hear everything perfectly? Obviously you’d want to be at the same level as the stage. And since things like vocals and high frequency are directional we have to place or aim them to the right areas to create that soundstage. Component speakers help us do that in the car audio industry. But putting a full range speaker into the front door of the FJ means the vocals and high frequencies are now playing into our feet. And adding tweeters to the dash now give us an unbalanced system with too much high frequency. With the lower cost and efficiency of components today there’s really no reason why you wouldn’t want to install them into the front doors & dash. If you’re trying to simplify the installation, as components can be a little harder to install. A full range coax with an amiable tweeter is your best option, and skip the tweeters. Unless you really like high frequencies, lol. To better understand this in the FJ you don’t have to look very far. If you look at the factory JBL system you’ll notice the front door speakers only play mid bass, while the dash speakers play your mid & high range. Your rear speakers also provide mid & high range to add fill and provide the proper effect when music fades front to rear or for an effect. The sub adds your low & mid bass. The little exciters in the headliner are designed to vibrate to headliner and add effect. (not really needed) While the factory JBL system might lack the fidelity I personally like. The JBL engineers do know what they’re doing and they created a system that is well balanced and staged for the FJ. That said you can do much better for sound quality, lol. But the staging of it should still be your target to reproduce or make better if you can. Because, while any upgrade to the base audio system in the FJ is an improvement. If you have the JBL system you can easily make it worse with poorly placed speakers & imaging. So if your upgrading the JBL system choose your components very wisely. Sorry for the long explanation, but there’s no way to know how familiar everyone reading this is with car audio.
One note on components, is when shopping make sure the set you settle on allows for the mid bass and tweeter to be placed a good distance apart. As some might not like to be separated very far, mainly do how they’re designed.
And I do agree brands like JL Audio for Subs, Speakers & Amps or Alpine for head units are at the top of their game. And it’s hard to go wrong with either of them. There are actually lots of companies out there that make great products at all price points though. This is why I always recommend to anyone they listen to speakers first hand, and educate themselves. As what might work for one doesn’t mean it will work for another. And the aftermarket car audio industry after all is for the fun and enthusiasm of people to enjoy their music and new custom system. So making it yours and learning about the technology is part of the enjoyment.
 

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I still recommend tweeters for the dash , sound stage can be adjusted several ways , amp sensitivity adjustment , time correction and EQ (ing) or a sound processor , people budgets vary and you adjust to that full range (with or without sub) vs components With sub (must have) ... most people here aren’t building a audiophile type system and almost anything aftermarket is better than stock
 

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Hey guys as most of you know I've put 100s of system together for members with a resume of about 3000 PMs so far so i though i would make a sticky for a few options for a basic auto system , this isn't meant to replace PMs to me I'm glad to help everyone but this will give a basic guidelines for a aftermarket system...a lot depends on everyone's budget and systems can be done for a few hundred dollars to the sky's the limit...I'm a keep it simply guy using good gear and mapping out any system correctly...matching gear up is important also like cheap amps with high-end component or vise versa etc a big no no ...so sticking with quality gear is important my go to brands are Alpine , JL Audio ,Pioneer, AD Design ,Hertz some Rockford and Kicker etc

HEAD-UNITS people can do a single din or double din either works depending on budget features you want etc its all personal preference the key things you DO want to look for in a headunit for SQ is 24-Bit DAC ,9 Band Parametric EQ and 3 Pre-Outs (4V) front/rear/sub
which gives you the option of adding to the system at a later date ...my favorite brand head-units are Alpine and Pioneer the higher end Kenwoods are great and Sony is making pretty good head units.

SPEAKERS their are several options in this area i will try to cover them all , front dash (tweeters) front door (6x9s) or (6-1/2 or 6-3/4) rear door (5-1/4) and rear pillars (3-1/2) ... JL Audio is my go to brand on speakers on speaker setup, you can go a full range system (6x9s in the doors and tweeters in the dash) rear speakers optional but not necessary, you can do this setup with or with out a amp i DO recommend a small amp at least though like the 4 Channel Alpine Power Pack , This setup with a good head-unit is the least expensive option but still gives you great sound ...next is a two way component speaker setup which would be 6-3/4 midbass drivers in the door and tweeters in the dash with a sub in back (many sub options can be had) the sub is personal preference from 2-12" subs to a shallow mount 10" like a JL TW3... let me clarify that you don't need huge subs one quality 10" sub will give you plenty of bass and of course JL Audio is my go to brand for subs , Alpine makes a good sub and the higher end kickers aren't bad ...this component system would require a 3 channel amp , the JL XDv2 500/3 is the perfect amp ..the 2 way component speaker setup with a sub and amp is my go to system and highly recommend

AMPS JL Audio ,Alpine ,higher end Rockford and Kicker all great amps several other brands also , with a full range system (4 speaker setup) a 4 channel amp will fit most apps... 5 channel amp with a (4 speaker setup with a sub) and with a 2 channels component system with a sub a 3 channel amp applies many variations from their depending on speaker setup

SYSTEM NECESSITIES quality RCAs & Speaker Wire, Sound Deadening (a real must) Bass Control Knobs like the JL Audio RBC-1 , 4 AWG Amp Kit , dash kit , speaker adapters , steering wheel control interface (Metra Axxess ASWC-1) SiriusXM SXV300v1 Connect Vehicle Tuner Kit etc

1. Set your needs and system goals
2. Set a budget (keep in mind the add on RCAs , sound deadening etc
3. Self install yourself or Car Audio Shop
4. buying online (i recommend Crutchfield) full warranty no tax etc or buying at a Car Audio Shop etc

this covers the bases i will add to this later or feel free to chime in, new threads and PMs are always welcome

The Audio Dude
Hi, looking to put a new head unit in my fj just bought a 2011 not able to upgrade anything else now is this ok or should I wait till I can add speakers. Thanks for any input
 

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sure anytime is good , I like Alpine the best , Pioneer is good also , depends on what you want to spend
 
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