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Who's making money on this forum? No longer seems to be controlled by the users. Recent changes have favored advertising and slowed access (load) times severely. Complaints or suggestions for improvements go unanswered.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be sorry to upset things, as the FJ Forum is an invaluable source of info to me.

Time for the ADMINISTRATORS to level with us.
 

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The paid portion of this offers nothing for me. That is why I have not paid my $25.00. Sticker, who cares, 500 PMs, I'm lucky if I get one a month. No adds, now that is a plus. Other stuff, I don't care about. I believe, and this is just me, that to have the little member avatar below your own avatar is just something to have for the bragging rites. It is just not for me. I would rather spend my $25 on something that is usefull to me. That is all.:wave:
 

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When a forum starts up, it has a small readership and makes very little money off of advertising, but also pays very little (comparatively) in bandwidth and space charges to the hosting company. As the forum grows, eventually (if it gets big enough) the hosting charges start to really sky rocket, but advertising revenue really picks up as well, it can be a real balancing act between these two forces.

The fact of the matter is - the users never have been and never will be "in charge" of a forum like this. The corporate parent - AutoForums - and their hired administrators are in charge and they are trying to maximize profit while maintaining the growing user base - again the balancing act. Just like any business, they have every right to try and generate as much revenue as possible, after all it is how they make their "beer money"! :cheers:

The administrators here do seem (IMO) to respond to some of the readership input, although they are not required to actually follow any suggestions. The leverage we - as readers - have is to quit reading their posts, thus reducing their traffic and reducing their advertising revenue. That is why they try to keep us happy enough to keep coming back, but still squeeze out as much profit as possible, and I can't honestly blame them for doing so. After all, it's a business, not a charity.

The difference between paid and standard accounts is like the difference between cable TV and broadcast. Broadcast is free, but lots of ads, cable costs more but has a lot fewer ads, although few cable channels have zero ads anymore.
 

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My point exactly. So who makes the money? And why is there zero ADMINISTRATOR responses to questions?
Gee... This thread was posted ten minutes ago and there's no response from admin yet... ??? :indifferent: C'mon. This forum is a privately owned enterprise and has never been portayed as anything else as long as I've been a member. There is nothing wrong with making money and this forum is one of the best that I've ever seen. So, those of you who don't want to pay to support, don't. Continue on using this forum for free. No arms are being twisted.
 

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I hope this isn't just occurring to you now... :lol:

To really stick it to the morons who run this place I've launched a radical, almost anarchist campaign... It began as the depraved dillusions of a madman, but has sparked into a real movement. I call it "going outside."

Join me! JOIN ME!!!!! Together we will overthrow this place! BYAH!!
 

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This admin is not an autoforums.com employee so I am not in the loop as to where the $$ goes, but as stated: it is a privately owned forum so it can be done with as the owners see fit. As also stated: there is no mandate to pay, and all of the same subject matter is free for the taking as it was before. :)
 

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I hope this isn't just occurring to you now... :lol:

To really stick it to the morons who run this place I've launched a radical, almost anarchist campaign... It began as the depraved dillusions of a madman, but has sparked into a real movement. I call it "going outside."

Join me! JOIN ME!!!!! Together we will overthrow this place! BYAH!!
LMAO!!! What a radical solution, and very timely since I have spent all my $$$ on mods for the ride that can take me wherever I wanna go outside! :bigthumb:
 

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Gee... This thread was posted ten minutes ago and there's no response from admin yet... ??? :indifferent: C'mon. This forum is a privately owned enterprise and has never been portayed as anything else as long as I've been a member. There is nothing wrong with making money and this forum is one of the best that I've ever seen. So, those of you who don't want to pay to support, don't. Continue on using this forum for free. No arms are being twisted.
I didn't suggest or request a response from the administrators within the next ten minutes, just any response within the past year I've visited this posr.
 

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I hope this isn't just occurring to you now... :lol:

To really stick it to the morons who run this place I've launched a radical, almost anarchist campaign... It began as the depraved dillusions of a madman, but has sparked into a real movement. I call it "going outside."

Join me! JOIN ME!!!!! Together we will overthrow this place! BYAH!!
:rofl:

OR, digruntled and banned members could go to this forum with others just like them...

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/picture-media-post/56733-found-different-forum.html


To those who would do this, I offer the most sincere best wishes - :wave: Bye! Have fun! - and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out... You're always welcome (unless you get banned...)! :D
 

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OR, digruntled and banned members could go to this forum with others just like them...
That is certainly not the official forum of disgruntled and banned members, but Dragon knows what is... :lol:

Not going to stir the pot by posting a link, all hell would break loose! All hell!!! :ninja:
 

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That is certainly not the official forum of disgruntled and banned members, but Dragon knows what is... :lol:

Not going to stir the pot by posting a link, all hell would break loose! All hell!!! :ninja:
Those guys are all (every single one) good people. Circumstances in forum etiquette keep them from here, but from what I know personally of them, I would love to have them as my next door neighbor or go out for a beer with them. Whether or not they would want me is a different story.
 

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This admin is not an autoforums.com employee so I am not in the loop as to where the $$ goes, but as stated: it is a privately owned forum so it can be done with as the owners see fit. As also stated: there is no mandate to pay, and all of the same subject matter is free for the taking as it was before. :)

Really, there are "autoforums" who run this site? Sounds like something from outer space. Glad you're not one of them.
 

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It's all good... a beer in Ouray shall be had by all. And I hear at those elevations one is all you need. :lol:
I had a difficult time Friday on Black Bear. I had more than one :worried: Thursday evening. As long as I sat in the FJ I was fine. As soon as I stood I would start to reel. I will probably take it a bit easier this year. Mostly I blame 3DTonka, Katfish, and Toddunderscore for forcing my hand :lol:

I can't wait for Ouray again. Sorry for the hijack. ...off to ban myself :cheers:
 

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Knowledge ain't cheap and I opted for the lifetime membership out of my appriciation of the knowlege I have obtained from this site. I am glad that someone is making cash.
I am lookingh forward to getting my sticker!
 

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If you scroll to the very bottom of this page, you will see all of the sites they now own (don't forget to click the tabs on the right)

That's cool! AutoForums - Automotive Enthusiast Forum Network

Autoforums.com owns dieselstop.com - one of my former most favorite forums back when I owned my Ford F250 Powerstroke! That's a great site!

Of course, I'm sure that a bunch of anti-capitalists with a few old servers in their garage could do a much better job... :indifferent: :rofl:
 
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