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so let's say, hypothetically, you had some land.


and let's say, hypothetically, that it was in virginia.


and let's say it was (this is all hypothetical) zoned for agricultural use.


and, continuing with the hypothetical theme, let's say it was, oh, awesome for off roading.


and what if, hypothetically, you wanted to turn it into an off road oasis/park/allow FJ peeps on said hypothetical land?

what would one hypothetically need? a waiver for them to sign so when/if they flip it's not your fault? is there some sort of zoning category for off roading?

the only example that comes to mind is paintball fields. What are those people? How does one start that? it can't just be about randomly inviting people in the middle of the woods to get shot (i know, i know, SUCH a Stalinism/WWII analogy waiting in there - let's let this one pass).

so there it is. help please.
 

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dont know much, but i know that in dallas/ ft worth texas, there are few off road parks, and the biggest issue that ive been told about, is insurance! other then that, and im sure loads of liability issues, i wish i could be of more assistance
 

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Interesting question.. That would be cool.. You could call it "Katyn private ORP".. Just kidding.. Ron

Hello.


and hi.



so let's say, hypothetically, you had some land.


and let's say, hypothetically, that it was in virginia.


and let's say it was (this is all hypothetical) zoned for agricultural use.


and, continuing with the hypothetical theme, let's say it was, oh, awesome for off roading.


and what if, hypothetically, you wanted to turn it into an off road oasis/park/allow FJ peeps on said hypothetical land?

what would one hypothetically need? a waiver for them to sign so when/if they flip it's not your fault? is there some sort of zoning category for off roading?

the only example that comes to mind is paintball fields. What are those people? How does one start that? it can't just be about randomly inviting people in the middle of the woods to get shot (i know, i know, SUCH a Stalinism/WWII analogy waiting in there - let's let this one pass).

so there it is. help please.
 

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Insurance, EPA and local zoning laws would be a start.

That posted before I wanted it to. The **** Creek link in my sig is local here in TN. The POC listed is Jeff Green, he is the owner. If you gave him a shout I'm sure he would be able to point you in the right direction. I know alot of parks here in TN are being closed down by the EPA.
 

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Generally, if you go to an off-road park, you sign a waiver when you pay the fee. In addition, if there are any kids under 18, they need to have a separate waiver signed by a parent or legal guardian.

Here's a minors form from Haspin Acres.
Haspin Acres | Off-Road & Motocross Park in Laurel, Indiana

Tips for starting your own ORV park
Off-Road Park 101 - Four Wheeler Magazine

Seriously thinking about opening an ORV park... [Archive] - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board

OffRoad Park Info - Information About Off Road Parks - 4x4 - OHV - ORV Riding Areas
 

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I've crossed and hunted on a ranch in north AZ in return for letting me do this I repaired some fence and gave some of the deer to him.
I was asked back so I think that's a good sign.

I stayed mostly on exciting roads and never abused his land.
 

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I own rural land in two different states (neither of which is Virginia FWIW). In Texas, you can do pretty much whatever you damn well please with your own rural land. Zoning is mostly a city limits kind of thing here, so you don't need any special permit or permission for agricultural, commercial, residential, or any other kind of use.

At my other place in New Mexico, the county is trying to pass county-wide zoning restrictions on some aspects of new home building, but otherwise again you can use your own land in any way you see fit. There is an ad hoc "neighborhood" association that is trying to shut down a commercial gravel quarry on BLM land in the same mountain range where I am, but they are not having much success because they have no legal basis that I can discern.

As long as you're not in any city limits, you are probably good to go but I would call your county government office and ask just to make sure.
 

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If you DON'T charge a fee...there's nothing needed.....If you DO charge a fee....you need everything...permits/insurance/licence and everything else any other business needs.....
 

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I've crossed and hunted on a ranch in north AZ in return for letting me do this I repaired some fence and gave some of the deer to him.
I was asked back so I think that's a good sign.

I stayed mostly on exciting roads and never abused his land.
Wow!!! I love exciting roads. Sounds exciting!!:rofl:
 

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WHat about not charging, but don't allow coolers and open a snack shop type place? Maybe put up a few little cabins? That might make you some money and skirt around some of the biggest hurdles. By the way, I'm in wester north carolina if you need some one to test drive!
 

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thank you, helpful friends a) for your time and consideration and b) for not banning me and/or turning this thread into a discussion of why Obama is, say, too __________ (i don't know, i can't think of anything wrong with him) to be president. I appreciate it.


i called a bunch of off road parks and bluntly asked them how they did it. They all told me to call my lawyer.
 

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thank you, helpful friends a) for your time and consideration and b) for not banning me and/or turning this thread into a discussion of why Obama is, say, too __________ (i don't know, i can't think of anything wrong with him) to be president. I appreciate it.


i called a bunch of off road parks and bluntly asked them how they did it. They all told me to call my lawyer.

Obama and his wife are both lawyers, right? :lol:
 

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I call first splash in NGFL! (no girlfriend...l...)
 

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Good luck, but dealing with counties and local governments and pissed off neighbours can be taxing, and take a long long time. Been there, done that and do it for a living for my clients (land development, planning, engineering etc.) so we have run the whole gambit, all the time. However, laws are way different here in Canada. I can understand what you are going through... Good luck to you my friend!
 

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i was thinking about this one day and thought i found a cute little loophole. not sure how bulletproof it is though.. I thought what if you posted signs that said, like no trespassing or no offroading. But didn't say anything when FJ guys or whoever comes along. Now say if they have an accident or whatever, you can easily just say. Oh there are signs so i'm not liable for whatever "trespassers" do. But when asked if you want to press charges, of course it's a no. And if you wanted to make money i'm sure you can "give" people some water bottles or passes to the park, and "hope" for a donation this is all hypothetically speaking of course :p sorry if this sounds dumb, brewed from a teenage mind
 
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