That video illustrates two important points.
This is the correct answer. Depending on the situation, you can roll at a given number of degrees where you did not roll previously.There are so many variable involved that it's hard to give a numerical value to the answer. Traction, momentum, and vehicle setup are all variable that needs to be considered. I've seen vehicles past 30 deg. side tilt and they didn't roll but there are also incidences where a vehicle will roll because the outside tires "caught" dirt on a hard turn and flopped. I have no idea what it would take to roll backwards and wouldn't want to test it either!
Small counter point to #2. As you progress in the sport you will eventually see someone do the exact opposite of #2 and it will save them from rolling.That video illustrates two important points.
1. Follow your spotter's instructions!
2. Don't accellerate if you start tipping. Take your foot off the gas pedal!
The other video of the jeep rolling backward also shows that when the front end came off the ground the driver accellerated...
Not the correct thing to do...
Ya that really does give you a good drivers-point-of-view. Wow that was tense though... is hells gate really that hard with a stick? Were you toe and heeling the brake and gas pedal? I have an old 4 banger stick rig and have taken it places that steep, but less tricky.
good vid! :rocker: maybe edit it it and add some music and it would be super cool
Excellent insight on COG and momentum.Small counter point to #2. As you progress in the sport you will eventually see someone do the exact opposite of #2 and it will save them from rolling.
Not accelerating is not always the proper course of action.....in many wheeling instances I've witnessed or been in, the ONLY correct course of action to save a roll is actually to GET ON IT! If you must do this though, be sure you are in the proper gear (If you have a manual) so that when the time comes you can stand on it and get the best application of power.
The other key is if you are heading in the forward direction and start to roll, you want to not only stand on it in certain circumstances, but also (VERY IMPORTANT).....TURN DOWN HILL.
It's counter-intuative to hit the gas when things start going wrong but on steep descents especially, where the back lifts up off the ground and will come over the front, it is far better to gas it and risk a VERY rough/hard landing that breaks major components or really slams the occupants around vs. rolling onto the roof.
Another thing to remember is: sometimes you want to grab reverse and power backward or push in the clutch to roll off something before your front end climbs into the air and you endo backwards.
Couple of examples....in this thread: The Jeep that rolls on Hell's Gate....she would have been better off if she'd stopped well in advance of where she lifted her tires (obviously). But once they were lifted, grabbing reverse and powering back would have saved her (as long as she didn't see-saw the steering wheels while going down). If it was a manual....clutching would have likely saved it as well. I'm not saying she should've backed all the way down the obstacle....just enough to regain control.
Which brings up another good point: The brakes are NOT your friend in most rollover situations. If you've gotten to the point you are going to roll, you've missed your chance to use the brakes effectively to stop the roll. Hard breaking is actually the cause of a lot of rollovers. Say you're dropping off a steep ledge and the rear tires come off the ground.....if you hit the brakes hard, the only ones that will be stopping the vehicle will be the ones on the ground in front...and the mass and momentum of your vehicle will cause the rear end to go even higher for a short amount of time....if you reach the point of no return with this extra height, you will go over without agressive correction by using the throttle and if you stab the throttle after 90º,you are going over anyway and are only accelerating in to the ground so it'll hurt more.
The video of the red Grand Cherokee....same thing....if he'd grabbed reverse (or more appropriately just used the proper amount of accelerator to begin with) he'd have been fine. A clutch would be even easier b/c as soon as the tires really started lifting, a quick clutch would have rolled him back down to the base of the hill. As wiw5 said, just getting off the accelerator would have likely saved this guy's bacon as well....so he does have the right advice, it's just not always a hard and fast rule.