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There have been alot of complaints recently about the search function on this site and it "lacking"... I disagree. We have made one change which allows the site to index 3 letter words (and greater) -- the previous limit was 4. The lower the number, the more resource intensive it is on the server.

We also support boolean searches, which sare also resource intensive -- all search queries use boolean by default now.

If you want to learn to search like a pro, the following "key" will help you.

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 The boolean full-text search capability supports the following operators:

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      +

      A leading plus sign indicates that this word must be present in each row that is returned.
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      -

      A leading minus sign indicates that this word must not be present in any of the rows that are returned.

      Note: The - operator acts only to exclude rows that are otherwise matched by other search terms. Thus, a boolean-mode search that contains only terms preceded by - returns an empty result. It does not return “all rows except those containing any of the excluded terms.”
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      (no operator)

      By default (when neither + nor - is specified) the word is optional, but the rows that contain it are rated higher. This mimics the behavior of MATCH() ... AGAINST() without the IN BOOLEAN MODE modifier.
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      > <

      These two operators are used to change a word's contribution to the relevance value that is assigned to a row. The > operator increases the contribution and the < operator decreases it. See the example following this list.
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      ( )

      Parentheses group words into subexpressions. Parenthesized groups can be nested.
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      ~

      A leading tilde acts as a negation operator, causing the word's contribution to the row's relevance to be negative. This is useful for marking “noise” words. A row containing such a word is rated lower than others, but is not excluded altogether, as it would be with the - operator.
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      *

      The asterisk serves as the truncation (or wildcard) operator. Unlike the other operators, it should be appended to the word to be affected. Words match if they begin with the word preceding the * operator.
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      "

      A phrase that is enclosed within double quote (‘"’) characters matches only rows that contain the phrase literally, as it was typed. The full-text engine splits the phrase into words, performs a search in the FULLTEXT index for the words. The engine then performs a substring search for the phrase in the records that are found, so the match must include non-word characters in the phrase. For example, "test phrase" does not match "test, phrase".

      If the phrase contains no words that are in the index, the result is empty. For example, if all words are either stopwords or shorter than the minimum length of indexed words, the result is empty.

The following examples demonstrate some search strings that use boolean full-text operators:

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      'apple banana'

      Find rows that contain at least one of the two words.
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      '+apple +juice'

      Find rows that contain both words.
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      '+apple macintosh'

      Find rows that contain the word “apple”, but rank rows higher if they also contain “macintosh”.
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      '+apple -macintosh'

      Find rows that contain the word “apple” but not “macintosh”.
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      '+apple ~macintosh'

      Find rows that contain the word “apple”, but if the row also contains the word “macintosh”, rate it lower than if row does not. This is “softer” than a search for '+apple -macintosh', for which the presence of “macintosh” causes the row not to be returned at all.
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      '+apple +(>turnover <strudel)'

      Find rows that contain the words “apple” and “turnover”, or “apple” and “strudel” (in any order), but rank “apple turnover” higher than “apple strudel”.
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      'apple*'

      Find rows that contain words such as “apple”, “apples”, “applesauce”, or “applet”.
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      '"some words"'

      Find rows that contain the exact phrase “some words” (for example, rows that contain “some words of wisdom” but not “some noise words”). Note that the ‘"’ characters that enclose the phrase are operator characters that delimit the phrase. They are not the quotes that enclose the search string itself.
 

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The quick search should probably be "literal" and not an advanced option.
Some people are just impossible to please, I guess. You whine about the 'elementary' fashion of the search engine, but then say you want it "dumbed down".
My typed text is hiding behind the banner ad. Sometimes it hides, sometimes not.
Flash banner ads will do this. Standard gif/jpg ads wont. You can make your window wider if possible so the banners dont obscure the search. That is the only solution.
 

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sweet i hated the 3 letter restiction, how much more intensive is it on resources? im in school for network security and have taken a microcrap sever class but didnt really get into web hosting it was mostly roaming profiles and dns serves.
 

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sweet i hated the 3 letter restiction, how much more intensive is it on resources? im in school for network security and have taken a microcrap sever class but didnt really get into web hosting it was mostly roaming profiles and dns serves.
I havent noticed much of a load yet from the difference.. but this site is relatively small. On one site I run, with over 47,000 subscribers and over 1000 online at any given time, I'm pretty sure it would make quite an impact.
 

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do signatures have an effect on searching? I.e. someone who mentions a trd exhaust or trd intake in their signature, will this set off a trigger in a search bringing up false results?
 

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LOL, it's always worked fine for me. No matter how many tutorials you post 1/4 of the people still won't use it. It's the old, egotistical, thinking that "my question is so important that I have to have it answered now and it warrants a new thread."
 

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Maybe time to update this thread, as I can't seem to use the search function at all since the change. Speaking of which, why screw with a good thing? The site's not as easy (for me) to surf thru/use anymore.
 

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Maybe time to update this thread, as I can't seem to use the search function at all since the change. Speaking of which, why screw with a good thing? The site's not as easy (for me) to surf thru/use anymore.

I have found that starting from google is far better than any other option. I just type a few keywords and fj cruiser forum and get far more relevant results.

My search works in Autoguide but I only use it for finding specific members' posts.
 

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I have found that starting from google is far better than any other option. I just type a few keywords and fj cruiser forum and get far more relevant results.

My search works in Autoguide but I only use it for finding specific members' posts.
I agree w/ using Google. You can restrict Mr. Google to searching a specific site with the "site:" option.

i.e. Search for "site:fjcruiserforums.com what size tire will fit my 3 inch lift"
 

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I have found that starting from google is far better than any other option. I just type a few keywords and fj cruiser forum and get far more relevant results.
X2...used site search regularly prior to the change...now I employ the method described above.
 

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I agree w/ using Google. You can restrict Mr. Google to searching a specific site with the "site:" option.

i.e. Search for "site:fjcruiserforums.com what size tire will fit my 3 inch lift"
will this prevent questions on what tire fits MY 3" lift???

Mr Snout!

DUDE!!!:wave::lol:
 

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will this prevent questions on what tire fits MY 3" lift???

Mr Snout!

DUDE!!!:wave::lol:
Hey!!! :wave:

I think you could form your search with similar syntax:
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site:fjcruiserforums.com -"tire size" -"3 inch lift" exhaust water leak
This should find the most relevant exhaust water leak thread posts that don't talk about tire size and 3 inch lift.

I think Google strips most punctuation, however I think it's aware that " is synonymous with inch.

Then again, I may be way wrong.
 

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Thx Smalldog.

But quite frankly, that's redundant. I have to do a search thru google instead of using the now-useless search function on this site? Really?
 

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The site search still works, you just might have to word things differently. Instead of searching for something using FJ BMC which it might say is to short or the words are too small, search for Body Mount Chop. There's so many threads with the same or similar names or names that have nothing to do with the things that are being searched that you have to mess with the wording a bit. Then you might get a bunch of threads that have some good, some bad, and some in between that you just have to read and scan to see if they contain the info that's needed. Some threads might come up and only have 12 views and replies where others have 212. That would be the one to check first as it's highly likely that people have been discussing things. It's not perfect, but it can work with a little work. Google is good too and with the new search function up top, everything is right there in the drop down box to use the site search, google search, and variations too.
 

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Thx Smalldog.

But quite frankly, that's redundant. I have to do a search thru google instead of using the now-useless search function on this site? Really?
When you do your searches, are you using a Google search or a VB Search? I wonder if it would help to try both and see if one gives you results that are more to your liking. Personally, I like the option to perform a Google search. It seems to return results in the most relevant format
 

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I agree...in addition to Google being the most efficient & versatile, I like its ability to restrict results to a certain time frame (i.e., this year, last hour, etc.).
 

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I have found that starting from google is far better than any other option. I just type a few keywords and fj cruiser forum and get far more relevant results.

My search works in Autoguide but I only use it for finding specific members' posts.
What He ^^^^^^ said!
 
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