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I have a vibration in the steering wheel or a roughness. It is rythmic. It's feel most at about 40 miles per hour and actually is not felt hardly when going 60 or above. I have taken it to the dealer twice. First time, they balanced the tires that I just had balanced somewhere else. Then I had a shimy. Took it back and they re-balanced and it was back to just the vibration. They said it was because my tires were feathered. That was bull****. I had 15000 on the truck at the time and always rotate my tires. Since I wanted 285's anyway, I put new tires on it and it still has the vibration. I took it in on manday and they called yesterday and said the U-joints needed to be replaced and that was the problem. I picked it up today and it is still there and maybe slightly worse or maybe I think it's worse because I drove the rental for a couple days. I have been dealing with this since Aug. It was there before my spacer kit and before the wheel spacers. I asked them before the spacer kit if they had any problem with me leveling it out and they said it would be fine. Today when I went right back, he said I know you don't want to hear this but when you lift it, you change things that could cause this. I pointed out that I have followed their advice and I also did the diff. drop so the angles should be fine. I hate going to this place and I just want to fix this and move on. I have an Icon stage 1 and T.C. Upper control arms but don't want to put that on until this **** is fixed. I am ready to put the stock tires back on and take the spacer kit out and see what they say. I am pretty sure they still couldn't fix it. He now says he is going to call Toyota. Does anyone have any idea of what this could be? Thank you in advance for any help or ideas

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I have stock rims and 285 70 r17 but this was happening before I changed the tires.

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Thanks but I haven't been off road. I am ashamed but I wanted to owe less than 30 before beating it up. I am there now but want to resolve this first.

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I have a vibration in the steering wheel or a roughness. It is rythmic. It's feel most at about 40 miles per hour and actually is not felt hardly when going 60 or above. I have taken it to the dealer twice. First time, they balanced the tires that I just had balanced somewhere else. Then I had a shimy. Took it back and they re-balanced and it was back to just the vibration. They said it was because my tires were feathered. That was bull****. I had 15000 on the truck at the time and always rotate my tires. Since I wanted 285's anyway, I put new tires on it and it still has the vibration. I took it in on manday and they called yesterday and said the U-joints needed to be replaced and that was the problem. I picked it up today and it is still there and maybe slightly worse or maybe I think it's worse because I drove the rental for a couple days. I have been dealing with this since Aug. It was there before my spacer kit and before the wheel spacers. I asked them before the spacer kit if they had any problem with me leveling it out and they said it would be fine. Today when I went right back, he said I know you don't want to hear this but when you lift it, you change things that could cause this. I pointed out that I have followed their advice and I also did the diff. drop so the angles should be fine. I hate going to this place and I just want to fix this and move on. I have an Icon stage 1 and T.C. Upper control arms but don't want to put that on until this **** is fixed. I am ready to put the stock tires back on and take the spacer kit out and see what they say. I am pretty sure they still couldn't fix it. He now says he is going to call Toyota. Does anyone have any idea of what this could be? Thank you in advance for any help or ideas

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Can't believe your still having this issue! Didn't you post this before? I may be mistaken... Anyways, what about the wheels themselves; have you ruled them out? Have you tired putting the front to back, back to front? Bent wheel maybe?

If the problem was there before you did any kind of modification, I would think it may be the wheels.. Have some one check wheel, you may also have something bent in the steering rack...
 

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I have had the wheels on the front and the back with no change. I have never run over anything that would bend the rim. When this started, we were on vacation and I remember going to get coffee on the second morning and the vibration was there.
Yes I did post about this before and they still haven't fixed it. I asked the dealer yesterday what about the differentials and a chipped tooth (I had read about that here) He said they checked both diffs for chipped teeth. I seriously doubt that but maybe they did. They have lied to me already (post in dealer problems) If anyone knows of a good honest dealer within a hundred miles or so of Fredericksburg Va, let me know. I will drive there, hell, I would go further to get this fixed. Or if I could GT about forty other FJ cruiser's to meet me at my dealer and we will occupy until fixed. We will tell them we are protesting wall street and bad dealer service.

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They claim to have road force balanced. But, this has not always been like this. It just started one morning on the way to the store. Rotating, balancing, changing to new tires, and balancing again has not effected it one way or the other.
 

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well I know this sucks, but maybe do like you said earlier, go back to stock and see if the vibration is eliminated. IF not, then the issue lye`s with Toyota...
We have a 3" Toytec kit on ours and no vibrations so far at any speed.
maybe the drive train is resonating thru the steering, engine/trans etc...
good luck, I hope you find what it is...
 

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I am willing to do that if they give me **** about but it was there and is documented before the mods. If I tear into this, I would really prefer to install the icon kit I just bought.


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Have they checked your alignment again? I know the rear isn't adjustable so much... but, because you did a lift, I would have them check to see how far it is out of spec. If it is out... maybe look into adjustable links and panhard?
 

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Consider that I'm a newbie regarding the following. There are other threads on this "shimmy/vibration" problem is steering wheel and many say it is a balancce problem? A top quality tire/suspenion specialty store should be able to diagnose it properly and don't believe ANY Toyota dealer has a Hunter 9700 Roadforce machine. I just asked on another thread what the number of TSB rfrom Toyota on this subject is, so is ammunition with dealer. If possible, tires and wheels should be balanced on the FJ taking particular care to add proper weights on BOTH front and back of wheel at speeds where vibrations happen.

I have a new 11 with only 1550 miles and have this problem, so if I can get TSB information, possibly pressure dealer to send out to local specialist who has Hunter and proper techniques!

Good Luck to us both in solving this!
 

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Well, The dealer called me on Thurs. and said since I modified it, they couldn't do anything for me. I went by Iron Pig offroad to get my Icon stage one and asked them about looking at it. Turns out they do lifts for the dealer on the Tundras I guess. The manager called down there and told them the space lift I put it would not cause this and it was happening before mods and tires. The service manager took and test drive with me, then the head mechanic of the dealership. I am dropping it off Wed. and they are renting me a vehicle while they figure it out and fix it. I also told the mechanic I am offering a 100.00 extra cash reward for whatever tech fixes it.
I hope they can resolve this so I can install the TC UCA's and the Icon kit. I have bushwackers for xmas but I don't want to put one more thing on here until it gets fixed.
 

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Since this is happening at only 40 mph, wheel balance is unlikely the issue. It wouldn't hurt to put it on a lift, and check wheel runout ON the car (a quick test which eliminates a lot of parts). Also as you spin it, you can check for brake drag on a warped rotor. Since you already swapped wheels front to back, I'm going to put my money on a CV joint gone bad, though.

Let us know.

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The dealer decided to look at it again and found the rear drive shaft to be out of balance. Yesterday I took it in for them to install it. The tech said it is better but the vibration is still there, it's just less. They gave me a rental and said they might have to replace the rear differential.
Just to be clear, this was there before the lift and the new tires. I have the diff. drop kit, so the angles should all the good.
 

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Well, they said bring it back after the holidays and I took it in yesterday. They called last night and said they drove it throughout the day and could not duplicate the problem. It just so happens I had to stop by right after dropping it off to get my coffee cup out of it. I went to pick it up this morning and surprise it was parked in the same place as yesterday morning. What are the chances that it got the same parking space in a crowded parking lot. They didn't give me a ticket so after tranferring my stuff back to my truck, I went in and asked for one. ( I had told him that I don't think anyone drove it) Mysteriously the ticket is ten miles less than what is on the odometer now. He typed a little before printing my ticket. I smell bull****.
 

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Unfortunately, think your "sniffer"is operating properly! What was their response when you called them on it? If it were me, I'd go to Toyota "Zone office and complain about it, putting all factors you described in writing to prove you have mastery of pertinent factors?

Good Luck! BTW, most dealers want to have "President Rating" and will likely perform so they don't get too many criticisms that Toyota knows about! It has worked for me....more than once!
 

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You can't ride with them when they test drive it?
Me thinks you need to contact a lawyer and get some advice. If there is a vibration that can be documented then you have a clear Lemon Law Case
 

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there are several threads related to this steering wheel shake.. i have a 08tt and mine shakes around 60ish mph problem i have is its not consistant.. im pointing towards the bfg's that came with the tt models maybe a bad batch .. i noticed the treads on the front inner side of the tires have wavy wear which could cause the slight shaking, will need alignment aswell.. 44k miles on orgingal bfg's with plenty tread left so ill be looking into it when i put some fresh new tires on .. hopefully you get your shakes resolved it can be annoying at times but not enough for me to ditch the storm trooper :) .. good luck, keep us posted
 
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