Umm... ya. you seriously think that a deisel version would cost as little as 30K? my guess that if this did become a reality, your looking at closer to 40K with decent options. You might be able to get it around 35, if its stripped, but thats doubtfull.As long as my aftermarket suspension bits fit on a diesel FJ, I'd trade in a heartbeat. I'd pay 30, maybe eve 35K for a turbodiesel 6 cyl.
Agreed. There's alot more mantanice with a desiel motor that many don't realize (Not talking about anyone in paticular, just people in general. Oil changes cost more, fuel filters, and repairs in general are going to more expensive.Que? The mileage in a 4000cc motor will be only slightly better. What I think you are wanting is a 4 cylinder turbo D or a much smaller V6 in displacement.
Otherwise 20mpg will be 25mpg with higher fuel prices and just wait until you go for an oil change and fuel filter swap every other oil change. Just ask a F-350 owner.
Scroll down to page 13 to see how the new 4.2 and 5.6 liter Cummins engines (which were in development with the Dept of Energy when this was written) compare with the 4.7 and 5.7 liter gas engines. Almost 50% increase in the combined driving averages.
Notice that these tests are dated 2004 which helps you understand how slowly things progress from development and testing to actual production . . . which helps explain why we aren't already driving diesel FJs.
One or both of these diesels is slated to be released in the Dodge Ram 1/2 tons in 2009 as a 2010 model. Ford and Chevy also have small diesel in development for their 1/2 ton trucks to be released about the same time.
Thats all fine and dandy for GM and dodge, but intill we see a desiel made by toyota for the FJ/4 Runner, tacoma platform, we really don't know how effecient it really will be. I'm not trying to be negative, but realistic. I to would love to see Toyota stuff a desiel in an FJ just give us more options, but the more i look into it, the more i honestly don't see the advantages.
Yes, there's no doubt that in towing, its all about deisels. NO argument what so ever there. Effecientcy..... Ya, the idea is that it supposed to be 50% more, but that doesn't mean its going to be. The big three are having that problem right now.
I really don't think the power has anything to do with it. More that there trying to meet the new smog requirments. My neibor has an 07 dodge ram mega cab with the old 5.9 Cummin's. He's constantly bragging to me that he can get over 20mpg unloaded, and in the high teens when towing his corvette to shows.You're not seeing the mileage gains b/c of the big 3's "power wars".
When you're punching out 325+hp and 650 ft.-lbs....you don't get very good mileage.
My 02 high output Cummins puts out 245 hp and 505 ft lbs....and gets 20 mpg in town (and I drive like a bat outta hell) 24 on the highway and 20 mpg pulling a 5K lbs trailer at 75. Not bad for a 7800 lb 4x4 truck.