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About two months ago, I installed a 3" Toytec Lift (i.e., Part # FJ3-FRCC) w/ medium load OME front coil springs. Since then, I've taken about a dozen rather challenging trails both here in Rubicon Country and in the mountains/deserts of Utah.

On my recent Utah trip, the suspension problems began and continue. I broke my driver's side CV joint; I've worn the passenger side tie rod down to a dub (it's hanging on by a thread and needs immediate replacement); I've worn the driver's side tie rod down to near repalcement territory; and I've had numerous tire issues on the front.

Are these problems common among other FJ owners after a lift install (i.e., not, in particular, a Toytec lift, but any lift)? I've never had such rapid suspension deterioration in lifted Jeeps. I find this frustrating.

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About two months ago, I installed a 3" Toytec Lift (i.e., Part # FJ3-FRCC) w/ medium load OME front coil springs. Since then, I've taken about a dozen rather challenging trails both here in Rubicon Country and in the mountains/deserts of Utah.

On my recent Utah trip, the suspension problems began and continue. I broke my driver's side CV joint; I've worn the passenger side tie rod down to a dub (it's hanging on by a thread and needs immediate replacement); I've worn the driver's side tie rod down to near repalcement territory; and I've had numerous tire issues on the front.

Are these problems common among other FJ owners after a lift install? I've never had such rapid suspension deterioration in lifted Jeeps. I find this frustrating.
None of these problems you're having are common.

Pictures, pictures, pictures please?

Tie rods bend, break and the joint wears out but they don't normally wear down to a nub? Elaborate please and again a picture is worth a thousand words.

Tire issues, does that mean alignment problems?

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Your over extending the suspension I would get a better lift, one thats designed not to go past the limits of what the other suspension parts can take.


May I recommend Icon coil overs, if thats out of your budget OME's should be fine.
I'm running Icon coil overs front and Icon rear shocks and haven't had any issues.
 

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None of these problems you're having are common.

Pictures, pictures, pictures please?

Tie rods bend, break and the joint wears out but they don't normally wear down to a nub? Elaborate please and again a picture is worth a thousand words.

Tire issues, does that mean alignment problems?

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I'll try and get pics of the tire rod isues, but I've already replaced the CV joint. And I've aligned it too.
 

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Your over extending the suspension I would get a better lift, one thats designed not to go past the limits of what the other suspension parts can take.


May I recommend Icon coil overs, if thats out of your budget OME's should be fine.
I'm running Icon coil overs front and Icon rear shocks and haven't had any issues.
If people could just see what weeeee (Rob) did with his stock FJ!
 

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If people could just see what weeeee (Rob) did with his stock FJ!
Very true. Rob had no problems taking his stock FJ anywhere.
 

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About two months ago, I installed a 3" Toytec Lift (i.e., Part # FJ3-FRCC) w/ medium load OME front coil springs. Since then, I've taken about a dozen rather challenging trails both here in Rubicon Country and in the mountains/deserts of Utah.

On my recent Utah trip, the suspension problems began and continue. I broke my driver's side CV joint; I've worn the passenger side tie rod down to a dub (it's hanging on by a thread and needs immediate replacement); I've worn the driver's side tie rod down to near repalcement territory; and I've had numerous tire issues on the front.

Are these problems common among other FJ owners after a lift install? I've never had such rapid suspension deterioration in lifted Jeeps. I find this frustrating.
Sorry to hear of your issues but I think that you are experiencing things that many others are not having.

I have wheel'd the p!ss out of mine w/o the issues you describe. I just completed an 8300 mile trip which included Rubicon, Moab (Poison Spider, Moab Rib, Hell's Revenge and Fins & Things) as well as the much more "relaxed" trails of the FJSummit.

I don't mean to come off with any bragging, far from it since I know many others who have done way more in theirs than I have done in mine. Its just that I've done quite a bit of wheel'n in mine. With that said, I'm pretty slow and cautious, trying to do my best to avoid any damage. In fact, now that I have an Inchworm Lefty, I'm kind of annoyingly slow, allowing me to control my ascent/descents over challenging terrain.

Just my feedback, hope you find a solid solution and I would agree that your suspension choice may not be the best for your driving style and desired terrain...
 

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What is the front setup of the toytec lift?? Is it an OME spring with a toytec shock?
 

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After more reveiw it looks like you installed two things that do not go together at lest from what I can tell.


Let me know if this is correct. You installed a OME medium spring and a toytec spacer up front. Is that right?
 

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What is the front setup of the toytec lift?? Is it an OME spring with a toytec shock?
His set up is this (From Toytec's web site)

Part # FJ3-FRCC

Included in kit:
2 OME Front lift coil springs (884 coils are the standard Light front coils)
NOTE: Select coil spring part number below if optional front coils are desired before adding to cart or 884 coils will be shipped
NOTE: 886 Heavy front coils require OME N140s front shocks sold below. OME front shocks will improve ride quality.
ToyTec Top plate spacers For a full 3" front lift
6 top plate studs
2" lift ToyTec "stock ride" rear coil springs (10% increase above stock capacity and spring rate for the best ride and flex)
Installation instructions
 

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After more reveiw it looks like you installed two things that do not go together at lest from what I can tell.


Let me know if this is correct. You installed a OME medium spring and a toytec spacer up front. Is that right?
Links to this info, please?

Also, it may all be installed wrong. What's your driving style?

If you do swap suspension and can't afford ICON, I'd suggest the new adjustable Toytecs. I absolutely love mine.

We need pics.
 

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His set up is this (From Toytec's web site)

Part # FJ3-FRCC

Included in kit:
2 OME Front lift coil springs (884 coils are the standard Light front coils)
NOTE: Select coil spring part number below if optional front coils are desired before adding to cart or 884 coils will be shipped
NOTE: 886 Heavy front coils require OME N140s front shocks sold below. OME front shocks will improve ride quality.
ToyTec Top plate spacers For a full 3" front lift
6 top plate studs
2" lift ToyTec "stock ride" rear coil springs (10% increase above stock capacity and spring rate for the best ride and flex)
Installation instructions
In the OP input, he said that he has "med OME springs" (885's), which would offer a 3" lift WITH a spacer lift of the ToyTec Top plate spacers. Not a good mix of components IMHO...
 

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well if you are running the N140s and top spacers you are extending the parts well beyond their limits, if you are using the stock shock, OME spring and a spacer you may not be extending them as much as you are jarring them. the stock shocks on the front will top and bottom out quickly slamming to a stop in either direction putting extra force on thin parts.
 

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Links to this info, please?

Also, it may all be installed wrong. What's your driving style?

If you do swap suspension and can't afford ICON, I'd suggest the new adjustable Toytecs. I absolutely love mine.

We need pics.
From my understanding he has OME med and a spacer installed, I may be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. If that is what he is doing then he has way to much lift (OME + spacer = to much lift = bad CV and steering angles) Bad install is a possibility, pictures would be nice.
 

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From my understanding he has OME med and a spacer installed, I may be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. If that is what he is doing then he has way to much lift (OME + spacer = to much lift = bad CV and steering angles) Bad install is a possibility, pictures would be nice.
Yup! Spacers on top of a 3" will wreck CV's + more in a hurry
 

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884 and spacer is too much if you are not running a bumper. Also what wheels and tires do you have? You could be set too far back or too far forward with you back spacing or you may of have gotten a tire that is too wide for the wheel.

more info is needed

I and running 885s with the spacer , but I also have a fabfours and winch up there so i have more than enough weight to preload the springs and have 0 problems offroad.
 

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884 and spacer is too much if you are not running a bumper. Also what wheels and tires do you have? You could be set too far back or too far forward with you back spacing or you may of have gotten a tire that is too wide for the wheel.

more info is needed

I and running 885s with the spacer , but I also have a fabfours and winch up there so i have more than enough weight to preload the springs and have 0 problems offroad.
Your preloading helps it but your droop is still possibly a damaging factor. as long as you dont go getting airborne alot or do any serious rock crawlin you should be good, but still not Ideal.
 

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The spacer that comes with the FJ3-FRCC is a samll top plate spacer that gives it a full three inches of lift. I have the same setup, except with the Heavies up front and the OME shocks that are recommended. I am also running an ALL Pro front Bumper with a Warn M8000 winch. Now with my setup it is still too tall because my Winch and bumper combo are not heavy enough to weigh it down to the right height. Now Doug at Toytec warned me not to run the top plate spacer unless I had the ARB bumper, since it was a lot heavier than my All Pro. I have worn driver side CV boot and now have installed a diff drop to compensate for this.

I am currently overseas so I can't measure the top plate spacer, but I would say that it is no more than a 1/4" in thick and maybe thinner....If Doug could chime in here from Toytec...
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong folks but the top plate spacer that comes with the toytec lift that I bought from Doug the FJ3-FRCC it's a bad idea to run that top spacer for the "full 3 inch lift" That's what it seems like reading these posts please correct me if I misunderstood.
(I am installing this lift tomorrow and want to know)
 

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If you dont plan on wheeling hard it should be fine. if you do any sort of regular wheeling you have a couple options, don't run the spacers, run the spacers and attach limiting straps, or run the spacers and install a diff dropdown. if you are running the longer shocks the extra little bit of lift the spacers give you is almost unnoticeable but it is enough to potentially damage parts depending on the terrain you run and how hard you run it.
 
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