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I am tempted to hit Moab after the Summit, already planning on visiting Canyonlands N.P., how advisable is a solo run through Moab?

I see aerial views of Canyonlands N.P. with dirt trails, are those accessible to the public?
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I am tempted to hit Moab after the Summit, already planning on visiting Canyonlands N.P., how advisable is a solo run through Moab?

I see aerial views of Canyonlands N.P. with dirt trails, are those accessible to the public?
I might be up for it with you.
Well simply put it isnt a good idea mate but.....in MOAB your never really alone that time of year. I highly encourage you to link up with someone..and that is usually easy to do at the trail head. Just ask someone to join you. Theres always a crew of Summit guys and gals that go either before or after so you may just find a group but if going solo is your thing have at it. I have been all over Moab and its a great place you gotta see...enjoy. See you at Summit.
I am specifically interested in the White Rim Road, park service says its a 3 day trip, I was really just wanting a 1/2 day or day trip

having said that is armoring up the underside of the fj necessary and how much lift is required?
Well everybody is gonna tell you something different but IMO armor is like insurance....you dont need it till you need it. I run a full belly of armor....Lift thats another thing.. I run a 3 inch ICON others swear by the 6 inch kits but for what your talking about lift isnt required just nice to have....again thats just my opinion.
I've witnessed stock FJ's with OEM tires and no armor do some of the harder trails in Moab; albeit in most instances with some resulting bumps and bruises. The better your vehicle is outfitted to handle such trails, the less likely it is that it will incur damage. It can be done but I'm certainly not warranting that nothing bad will happen should you choose to do Moab in stock trim.

Jim
wats this summit run you guys r talking about?
wats this summit run you guys r talking about?
The FJ summit in Ouray, Co in July....:bigthumb:
Read through these:
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/2011-fj-cruiser-summit/

KyFJGuy
I happen to think solo trips trough the Moab area are great in summer! But you MUST be prepared. Water, water, water. i cannot stress this enough. GPS is handy as well, but you should also have maps as a backup. It's a BIG area!

Also, my experiences over the last two years have made me a believer in having a back up method of long range communication in an emergency. Example, last year the wife and I trekked throughout SE Utah for 9 days, and had solid cell phone service for a total of 39 hours of it. But we have a SPOT( SPOT SATELLITE MESSENGER :: HOME PAGE )and never worried about how to reach emergency services if it came down to that.

And DO treat the weather with respect. You will be there in the monsoon season. Do not giggle at their choice of words. These storms are the real deal and can seriously screwup the roads quick, fast, and in a hurry. I witnessed dangerous flash flooding at a creek bed crossing that was dry as we approached it and and an inpassable torrent 30 seconds after we passed it. Sunny day. Rain clouds a few miles to our North. Scared the bejeebus out of us.

Just sayin'.

Also, having a guide book is great to help you know what it is you want to see, and will help you find the cool out-of-the-way bits many exploreres miss. Here are the three we have in order of preference:

Favorite for Moab... Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-Wheel Drive Trails, 2nd Edition

Close second and outlying areas...Amazon.com: Backcountry Adventures Utah: The Ultimate Guide to the Utah Backcountry for Anyone with a Sport Utility Vehicle (9781930193277): Peter Massey, Jeanne Wilson: Books


Good for Moab...Utah Byways by Tony Huegel (Book)

As far as truck preparation, a stock FJ well driven can do nearly anything a novice to intermediate offroad enthusiast has any business attempting. Anything you do to the truck from it's stock form is just insurance, as mentioned before.

Solo works, with some prep time and planning. If it will just be you and the missus, you will love it!
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I am specifically interested in the White Rim Road, park service says its a 3 day trip, I was really just wanting a 1/2 day or day trip

having said that is armoring up the underside of the fj necessary and how much lift is required?
You can do an in-and-out trip on the White Rim Road but with only a half day I'd recommend you do the Shaffer Trail.

Utah's Potash Road To The Shafer Trail - On The Road - Truck Trend

What's the big..? Hoooly shnikies. - Review of Shafer Trail, Canyonlands National Park, UT - TripAdvisor

shaffer trail - Google Search
Apexbasher hit the nail on the head. There is no reason you can't do solo trips in Moab. However, I do caution you to have your rig setup properly (Water, Food, GPS, Maps, SPOT, CB, HAM, etc.). If you don't have much experience offroad or are completely unfamiliar with Moab, then don't go out alone...you can easily get yourself in over your head. Don't expect to use Moab emergency rescue services to compensate for yours or others mistakes and poor planning on the trial.



I ran a multitude of trails last year in Moab alone, but was cautious in everything we did and tried to ensure we were properly prepared. Also I recommend trying to go with anyone else you see on the trail/area and piggy back on their trip - FJ, jeep, bronco, hummer, etc...don't be locked in to only going with other FJs.
I would second what both Apexbasher and FJNewb have pointed out. When I got out there last year I did 3 "trails" alone, baby lion back and Fins and Things and Gemini Bridge (most of it, ran out of time). On Fins and Things, I ran into issues with deep sand and my tires (brand new Nitto Terra Grapplers) didn't do so well in. The temps during the day ranged 102 - 108 everyday. In addition, fortunately on my last day in Moab we were in a group doing the 4x4 trails in Arches NP and I miss judge a large rock and got high centered and had to be winched off. The point is that unexpected things can happen, equipment may not perform like you think and in the heat is not a fun place to deal with it. It was a blast and a learning experience and I looking forward to it this year.
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