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I really need to pick up a new fire ext' for the FJ !...

I was helping a friends mom out one night, by
driving up to near NY in Kearny... Her car broke
down, and I went up there to tow it back down
to central NJ... So I hooked my trusty flatbed
trailer to my FJ and drove on up... Of course it
was parked so I had to crank it up with the hand
winch all the way onto the trailer... I must get
an electric winch for this...

Anyway, got er' loaded up, and headed back
south towards home... About 10 miles down the
road, I start semlling a burning smell, and for
anyone who has been to north jersey with all the
factories and such, I accounted it to them or
another vehicle...

So I continiued home, but the slight smell was
there the whole time... I got back into town and
stopped to fill up, since towing sucks the fuel
out of the FJ like i had a SS454 under the hood...

The attendant at the gas station said he smelled
something burning, but he continiued to fill er' up,
while I crawled under the FJ looking for the source...

Well... there is this insulation that toyota used
above the rear tail pipe, which unlike the normal
metal shields that are used, this one is a fiber
type... It was glowing red like a coleman tent
heater and smoldering... :eek:...

I quikley had the attendant finish up, and I drove
a block to the local hand wash spray booth and
put out the fire... The next day when it was light,
I noticed that the insulation materail had came
loose and was laying directly on the pipe, that
combo'd with the two hours driving while towing
added up to some real heat back there...

I have heard some stories from people that there
cargo floor are had got REAL hot from the exhaust
pipe, so I guess that is a simular situation I have,
but with the insulation making contact directly to
the pipe, made mine a tad worse....

I would recomend, that everyone keep an eye on
theie insulation back there, to make sure it has
not came loose and such... I have ordered some
header wrap insulation from summit to wrap a few
layers on mine to reduce the radiating heat back
there, and then I should be fine again... :p
 

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The wrap is a great idea. The Jeep TJ also has a serious problem with cargo floor getting hot. On cross-country roadtrips I couldn't keep a cooler back there without a moving blanket covering the floor. It would actually get too hot to hold your hand on. I'll check the FJ this weekend.. Thanks Ron

I really need to pick up a new fire ext' for the FJ !...

I was helping a friends mom out one night, by
driving up to near NY in Kearny... Her car broke
down, and I went up there to tow it back down
to central NJ... So I hooked my trusty flatbed
trailer to my FJ and drove on up... Of course it
was parked so I had to crank it up with the hand
winch all the way onto the trailer... I must get
an electric winch for this...

Anyway, got er' loaded up, and headed back
south towards home... About 10 miles down the
road, I start semlling a burning smell, and for
anyone who has been to north jersey with all the
factories and such, I accounted it to them or
another vehicle...

So I continiued home, but the slight smell was
there the whole time... I got back into town and
stopped to fill up, since towing sucks the fuel
out of the FJ like i had a SS454 under the hood...

The attendant at the gas station said he smelled
something burning, but he continiued to fill er' up,
while I crawled under the FJ looking for the source...

Well... there is this insulation that toyota used
above the rear tail pipe, which unlike the normal
metal shields that are used, this one is a fiber
type... It was glowing red like a coleman tent
heater and smoldering... :eek:...

I quikley had the attendant finish up, and I drove
a block to the local hand wash spray booth and
put out the fire... The next day when it was light,
I noticed that the insulation materail had came
loose and was laying directly on the pipe, that
combo'd with the two hours driving while towing
added up to some real heat back there...

I have heard some stories from people that there
cargo floor are had got REAL hot from the exhaust
pipe, so I guess that is a simular situation I have,
but with the insulation making contact directly to
the pipe, made mine a tad worse....

I would recomend, that everyone keep an eye on
theie insulation back there, to make sure it has
not came loose and such... I have ordered some
header wrap insulation from summit to wrap a few
layers on mine to reduce the radiating heat back
there, and then I should be fine again... :p
 

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Hmmm, something sounds fishy with this story. An attendant at a gas station? Must not have happened in Texas.
 

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Definitely something to watch! Were there actually flames or was the shield only smouldering?
At the point I saw it, It was all glowing red,
just like one of those coleman heaters, or
charcoal in a grill...

Simular to the even orange glow shown here...


The wrap is a great idea. The Jeep TJ also has a serious problem with cargo floor getting hot. On cross-country roadtrips I couldn't keep a cooler back there without a moving blanket covering the floor. It would actually get too hot to hold your hand on. I'll check the FJ this weekend.. Thanks Ron
I know I read some people having excessive
heat back in the FJ cargo areas here before,
just as you describe about the TJ... I never
realized the the tailpipe would get that hot,
I know from the manifold to the cats would
get cherry, but ghezz... Just goes to show
you never stop learning...

It can't hurt to check to make sure the shield
is intact and still attached to the Fj and not
hanging down... That is why I posted this, to
be used as a preventive measure...

Hmmm, something sounds fishy with this story. An attendant at a gas station? Must not have happened in Texas.
LOLOL... NJ does not allow you to pump your
own fuel... we are not smart enough and they
must pay a fuel transfer engineer $7 an hour
to do it for us...
 

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From memory the heat shield on my 08 is that shiny "foil like" stuff, but I'm not sure now. I'll check it out.

As a teen I pumped gas and washed windows at half the stations in town. I thought is was a sad job, but i did it rain/shin/sleet/cold/snow. Now that I'm near retiring from the state, I would love to get a doing it again. Being outdoors in the weather/world, around/near automobiles, meeting people. What's not to like.. OH.. the $7 per hour.. that's it. hahahahaha.. Ron

At the point I saw it, It was all glowing red,
just like one of those coleman heaters, or
charcoal in a grill...

Simular to the even orange glow shown here...




I know I read some people having excessive
heat back in the FJ cargo areas here before,
just as you describe about the TJ... I never
realized the the tailpipe would get that hot,
I know from the manifold to the cats would
get cherry, but ghezz... Just goes to show
you never stop learning...

It can't hurt to check to make sure the shield
is intact and still attached to the Fj and not
hanging down... That is why I posted this, to
be used as a preventive measure...



LOLOL... NJ does not allow you to pump your
own fuel... we are not smart enough and they
must pay a fuel transfer engineer $7 an hour
to do it for us...
 

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Thanks for the heads up Bandi, I have beat my tailpipe to a pulp and it may be closer to that insulation than I'd like. I will look at it today. I grew up in PA close to the Jersey line. I would take my 57 Chevy to NJ for gas just to watch the attendants fumble around trying to find the gas cap :) cheap entertainment
 

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From memory the heat shield on my 08 is that shiny "foil like" stuff, but I'm not sure now. I'll check it out.

As a teen I pumped gas and washed windows at half the stations in town. I thought is was a sad job, but i did it rain/shin/sleet/cold/snow. Now that I'm near retiring from the state, I would love to get a doing it again. Being outdoors in the weather/world, around/near automobiles, meeting people. What's not to like.. OH.. the $7 per hour.. that's it. hahahahaha.. Ron
Please check on the type of shield you have, I
would appreciate it, and if it has changed, that
would mean that toyota might know there is a
problem with the current setup... Take a pict'
if you could, and I will get a pict' of the mine,
well, whats left of it...

I have been sitting at an office job for 26 years
now, I would love to pump gas, oh wait a miniute,
I prolly could not afford the FJ then... :(...

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Thanks for the heads up Bandi, I have beat my tailpipe to a pulp and it may be closer to that insulation than I'd like. I will look at it today. I grew up in PA close to the Jersey line. I would take my 57 Chevy to NJ for gas just to watch the attendants fumble around trying to find the gas cap cheap entertainment
:rofl:...
 

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I'll do that.. Funny how the "job" thing works isn't it. I remember standing at the front desk of the Amoco station looking out at the wind/rain thinking "what a crappy job... I must do something with my like"... and as you said.. after working inside for 32 years, I'd love it now.. LOL.. Ron

Please check on the type of shield you have, I
would appreciate it, and if it has changed, that
would mean that toyota might know there is a
problem with the current setup... Take a pict'
if you could, and I will get a pict' of the mine,
well, whats left of it...

I have been sitting at an office job for 26 years
now, I would love to pump gas, oh wait a miniute,
I prolly could not afford the FJ then... :(...



:rofl:...
 

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I know what you are talking about guys. I have been building homes for 25 years and mostly outside. In the past 5 years my work has become mostly designing homes and sitting here at the computer. I look for reasons to get outside now, did not realize how spoiled I really was. Up side is alll my design work is for Key West and the FL Keys so I am forced to travel there on business 5-6 times a year :) Tough, but someone has to do it LOL
 

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I'm feeling really bad for you Stan<<=;) What does your FJ look like in case I get to the cove this weekend? Ron

I know what you are talking about guys. I have been building homes for 25 years and mostly outside. In the past 5 years my work has become mostly designing homes and sitting here at the computer. I look for reasons to get outside now, did not realize how spoiled I really was. Up side is alll my design work is for Key West and the FL Keys so I am forced to travel there on business 5-6 times a year :) Tough, but someone has to do it LOL
 

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Now that I'm near retiring from the state, I would love to get a doing it again. Being outdoors in the weather/world, around/near automobiles, meeting people. What's not to like.. OH.. the $7 per hour.. that's it. hahahahaha.. Ron
Ron

Ugh, I'm getting too old, too miserable, and too mean to do that sort of work anymore. When I was a young teen, it was fine though

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From memory the heat shield on my 08 is that shiny "foil like" stuff, but I'm not sure now. I'll check it out.
I just checked mine, it's that fibre stuff
 

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It was glowing red like a coleman tent
heater and smoldering... :eek:...
Man, thank God something really bad didn't happen. You may have learned that lesson for all of us, Bandi. Thanks for the heads up! :bigthumb:
 

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I think I've gone/come full cycle..LOL.. I'm ready to punt my entire hi-tech world with all my servers and higher education politics... and go back to a simple life..... with my hi-tech off-road toys... hahahahah.. Ron

I just checked mine, it's that fibre stuff
Ron

Ugh, I'm getting too old, too miserable, and too mean to do that sort of work anymore. When I was a young teen, it was fine though

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Yikes, thanks for the heads up!
 

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Bandi thanks for the info, as always.

After I purchased the AllPro exhaust tip (that sits way up there), I purchased some ceramic fiber insulation to put up there, since it's not really shielded. Guess I should put the insulation up there SOONER than later.

Glad it didn't get any worse.
 
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