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Thanks for the inputs - it'll be Duratracs in the fall.

One more question.

Should I buy 5 or leave the Bstone spare where it is?
 

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Thanks for the inputs - it'll be Duratracs in the fall.

One more question.

Should I buy 5 or leave the Bstone spare where it is?
I would buy 5. If you ever get a flat on the rear or are in a place where you have to run in 4WD, you dont want to run a spare that has a different diameter than the other 3 wheels as this can cause a differential failure. Or, you dont want to have to move a new tire from front to rear and then have to put the spare on the front in order to deal with a smaller diameter spare (in 2WD this would work with an odd size spare).

However, one consideration is that if you go with a larger than stock size spare, the stock OEM tire cover (not the frisbee) will not fit. Depending on the wheel and tire size you select, it can make fitting the spare on the spare mount difficult or needing modification.
 

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stock size.

Problem is I'll be tossing a brand new Dueler.
Sell it on Craigslist. You can probably get $40-$70 for that tire. It is a 5 to 6 year old tire now anyhow (recommended service life is 7 years...but I certainly go longer than that with some of my vehicles.)

This is also why I always put my spare into the tire rotation pattern.
 

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Dueler spare has been under the cover since new, so no UV degradation.

I never rock crawl or even off road for fun. Dueler will be same diameter so good for short term use if necessary.

Have four Duratracs on order for later in the week.


Thanks everybody for the inputs
 

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Even happier with the Duratracs now that they easily passed my big test.

I don't fun off road but I do drive out to the back barn occasionally. Our soil has a heavy clay content which means that it is hard as rock when dry but "bacon grease" when saturated like it is this week. We also enjoy some low spots and springs.

Would have been very iffy with the Bstones, no problem now.

Not even concerned with heavy snow now
 

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Well it looks like we're done with snow this year ( crossed fingers, around here we could still have a 3 footer)

Anyway, the Duratracs got thru what we got with no problems. 9 inches was the max so it wasn't much of a challenge however.

Also pleased at how quiet they are on dry pavement.

Pleased with my decision
 

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Firestone Destination A/T's are the best truck tires out there. I put a full set on after the crap stock Bridgestones wore out at about 70K miles, and that was with rotating in the spare. I put 110k miles on that set, properly rotated of course, and probably could have put more but my front hub bearings were worn out. So once I replaced them I put another new set of the Destination A/T's on and they still look like new with 45k miles.

I also ran the them on a Dodge Ram 1500 with same good results so it's the only truck tires I've bought in >10 years. Obviously the more gravel in your travel the faster your tires will wear. My brother owns a commercial tree trimming business with about 10 trucks and he's also gone to the LE's.

Obviously they wear great, are quiet, durable, and good traction. I lived in Michigan for 8+ years and had no snow issues. I also mainly run them on MO county roads now.


That's why I run em but ymmv.
 

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I鈥檓 currently running a set of Duratracs, 265/70-17, in a load/speed range 115S (SL load range). I鈥檝e got about 32K miles on them, with a 4-way rotation. I鈥檒l admit to not rotating them as often as I should have. They are starting to show their age, but still have serviceable tread. I imagine I could squeeze 40K out of them (maybe), but I鈥檒l definitely new some new shoes by winter. I鈥檒l probably be upsizing to 285鈥檚 when that happens.

I have been very happy with the performance of these tires - off road, on road, and in snow. I will say, they are getting pretty loud, however. They were pretty quiet until about 20K, then started to become progressively louder, to the point where they are now certifiably loud.

Moving up to 285鈥檚 does limit tire options a bit. Right now, I鈥檓 looking at Duratracs in a 鈥淒鈥 load rating or KO 2鈥檚 in a 鈥淐鈥 load rating. Whatever I get has to be good on snow/ice.

Pet peeve - wish tire posters would provide more details on tires they are running, specifically load ratings. SL and C load range tires are likely not going to perform or last exactly like E rated tires. For instance, I assume, when somebody claims crazy high mileage, they are rinning E鈥檚. But, who knows?
 

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I use: Nitto A/T Terra Grappler G2 - E rated 10 ply
Love Em!!
Very Quiet on the highway
seem to perform well in up to 1 foot deep snow
I like to run them at 60psi for better handling, less sidewall flex in cornering.
I also like a firm ride versus a soft ride.
 

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Duratracs update.
Motored down and up the 250 ft driveway thru 20" of snow. Only slowed slightly by the plow berm at the road. ( slowly in LO)
Cost < 1mpg on highway.
Glad I bough them
 

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Our 鈥13 auto 4wd has got 31xxx miles and I鈥檓 considering new tires before the snow flies
Use is local light hauling,400 mile round trips to the lake and most importantly as a
Snow hammer to ensure that us two oldies can get out of our 250ft
driveway in the worst upstate NY has to offer
No complaints about the OEM Bstone Duelers except they may not offer enough bite this winter
Recommendations appreciated
This is what I am running, had them on my 01 Tacoma and got 160k out of them.
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