Go ARB. Because you know the deer are circulating a picture of you in the forest.:surprise
Sorry, I meant this as "NOT that the Expedition One bumpers can't take a deer hit".
You gain two things by mounting a light up high: light bars have a lot more LEDs and being high they have a little bit of down angle. Problem is that light bars are $$$.Any help with lighting options? I don't have the option for a rack mounted light bar due to garage height limitations. Are bumper mounted lights just for on road use? I don't see much fog. My typical use case is I am going down a forest road at night looking for a camping spot or I got out of the woods a little late and need some help until I hit pavement.
I run these floods on my front bumper and they work very well. Don't let the off brand fool you - these have outlasted and performed many of the big name lights. I'm getting ready to order another pair because you can never have to much light....right?Any help with lighting options? I don't have the option for a rack mounted light bar due to garage height limitations. Are bumper mounted lights just for on road use? I don't see much fog. My typical use case is I am going down a forest road at night looking for a camping spot or I got out of the woods a little late and need some help until I hit pavement.
BAJA Designs Squadron Sport Drive/Combo Round (Black Round Bezel) $254.99
Baja Designs Squadron Sport Led Spot Round (Black Round Bezel) 254.99
Baja Designs Squadron-R Pro Pair Driving/Combo LED( Black Round Bezel) 454.99Piaa 530 LED Fog 254.15
Baja Designs Squadron-R Pro Pair Spot LED (Round Black Bezel) 454.99
PIAA 530 LED Drive 254.15
PIAA 510 SW- Night Tech Drive Beam
PIAA 510 Fog 254.15
PIAA 510 ION (Yellow) Fog Beam 254.15
PIAA 520 ION (Yellow) Halogen Lights 279.95
PIAA 520 Xtreme White Plus Lights 330.00
PIAA 530 LED Driving 254.15
PIAA 530 LED Fog
PIAA LP 530 3.5" LED Back-Up Flood Light Kit 169.15
Hella Optilux 2500 69.99
Hella Optilux 4" LED Fog 250.99
There are tradeoffs in everything...that tight fit is because the Demello is the most tucked in and up of all the bumpers I have seen. Some of them are just massive slabs of metal hanging way off the front. Great for bashing deer I imagine, but sucks from a weight distribution and approach angle standpoint, and many of them just look ungainly IMO.1. I've installed or help to install pretty much every major bumper made for the FJ, including the Demello. I'm not a fan. Control box mounting is always an issue and everything on this bumper is a tight fit.
I would install it before the bumper. If you have a bumper with hoops then it will make it a little more awkward. The cooler is an easy install and some good threads on how to do it. I mounted mine to the left side of the radiator using existing holes etc to mount.At what point in the process should I install a aux transmission cooler? Before bumper install, after install or does it matter at all? Going with the Hayden 679?
My suggestion is go with a TJM Bumper vs ARB. The two companies make their bumpers in their home country - Australia.
I did a lot of research and actually compared the two bumpers installed on FJ. I also got feedback from each owner.
Despite the similar looks between the ARB and TJM, I prefer the TJM bumper over the ARB. Why? (1) The round tube is much beefier on the TJM. (2) There's more room to mount monster lights on the bumper on the TJM. and (3) There are heavy duty steel plates covering the undersides of the left and right lower wings of the bumper to protect the engine compartment from flying debris and keeps debris from entering the engine compartment from the fender wells.
IMHO, I think the TJM bumper is better designed and built than the ARB.
I was not familiar with the 70 Series bumpers so I looked at it online. You are correct, the bumper on the 70 Series LC was not designed very well. Basically it is just a simple “C Channel” bumper design. I can see how a little hit would cause alignment issues.@Goat242 good choice. I have a Demello rear bumper and am impressed with their detail for strengthening etc.
I had a TJM on my old 70 series. Apart from being insanely heavy it proved to have a major flaw in the design, much like many other bumpers available, which is a weakness where the cut outs were for the winch. A very minor rub on a tree and the centre plate kinked.
My big hate of both ARB and TJM is they have a very generic design for all fitments and to me that means the styling of the vehicle is lost, morphing into that single ARB look.
I was not familiar with the 70 Series bumpers so I looked at it online. You are correct, the bumper on the 70 Series LC was not designed very well. Basically it is just a simple “C Channel” bumper design. I can see how a little hit would cause alignment issues.
However, the OP and I are talking about 2006-2014 FJ bumpers. If you look at the bumpers for the two different vehicles, you will see that the FJ bumper is better designed structurally with compound angles in the middle and ends. This multiple folded design creates a much stronger bumper. Comparing the FJ and the 70 bumpers are night and day different.
I can attest to the TJM bull bar bumper because I have had it installed on three FJs that I’ve owned - 2006, 2008 & 2014. The reason I no longer own the 2006 & 2008 is because I put over 175,000 miles on each and both were driven in heavily salted environment. I currently moved to Texas and drive the 2014 FJ. All three custom ordered from Japan with the options I wanted.
Once the bumpers are properly installed, the bumper is very solid. I’ve never had any issues.