Poison Spider Beadlocks.

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Toledo FJ

Discussion Starter · May 23, 2008 (Edited)

Anyone running these wheels? I'm thinking this may be the set I go with unless I hear a bunch of bad reviews. I can get them cheap through my buddy. Thinking about throwing on a set of Nitto Dune Grapplers on em too. Any reviews of those tires? Thanks guys.
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· #2 · May 23, 2008

I find the Dune Grappler an odd choice but the wheels look awesome. I see there was a couple of podium finishes with these tires in competition, but I also noticed that the 'review' was based on how cool the tire looks. (which it does) I'm curious to hear some real reviews of the tires. Are you a sand and street driver mostly?

jenward74

· #3 · May 23, 2008

Those wheels are kick ask looking. I wanna see 'em mounted up. The Dune Grapplers have a cool flamey thing going on. What kind of terrain are you planning on cruising them on?

billybongo63

· #4 · May 23, 2008

Nice! I know that their rep is good with the jeep guys.
First time I've seen anything but five lug, nice find.
Hows the price?

DominicG

· #5 · May 23, 2008

those are some sweet beadlocks! Pricing?

MidsouthBolt

· #6 · May 23, 2008

I have them on my 2000 XJ and have beat the crap out of them. They hold up great. Once I SAS my FJ I will definately buy them for it.:rocker:

Hope this helps.
Graeme

Toledo FJ

Discussion Starter · #7 · May 23, 2008

Sweet. If I go with them I should be able to get a considerably better deal on them. I'm gonna see if anyone chimes in with some pertinent info on the wheels, and baring any ban info, I'll be getting them. Here is a link to their website with more info on the wheels and pricing. They are actually pretty good as far as price. https://www.spydercustoms.com/index2.php
They only come in a 3.5in backspacing so I think I'll have to run some adapters to get the extra space.

Currently I am doing most of my wheeling in northern Michigan. There is a lot of sand and dirt, but little in the way of rocks..... similar to baja type stuff. It is also my DD and I don't want something that is going to be terrible on the road. I currently have biridgestone Dueler Revo AT 285's on the OEM rims. They have been surprisingly good tires on and offroad. I really don't know what I'm gonna do about tires. I want something pretty much just for the trails, but I want them to be as versatile as possible. I'm keeping my current tires and rims as winter tires and for long highway trips, so I already have decent AT tires. The Dune Grapplers would be perfect tires for the terrain I currently wheel in, but I want to be able to run out to Montana or Colorado and have tires that will do well out there too. I probably won't go with the Dune Grapplers because they are too similar to what I'm already running, and the bridgestones have done really well in the sandy stuff. So it looks like I need to look more into some MT tires.

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Toledo FJ

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 23, 2008

There is a pic of them mounted on the FJ in the margin next to the 15in wheel sizes. Click on the photo and it will enlarge. Isn't that the ultimate FJ build truck?

Fjamming

· #9 · May 23, 2008

Toledo FJ said:
https://www.spydercustoms.com/index2.php
They only come in a 3.5in backspacing so I think I'll have to run some adapters to get the extra space.

Actually you don't want adapters. They'll stick way out as is.

Toledo FJ

Discussion Starter · #10 · May 23, 2008

really? I thought we needed 4.5 in. If I don't need spacers, I don't want them. So I should be able to clear these wheels as is?

Layonnn

· #11 · May 23, 2008

The dune grapplers look like the type of wheels i would find on the Harley davidson edition F-150.

Those beadlock wheels look sweet, you should jump on that. I would personally run a more aggressive tire if i was going to run bead locks.

x2 on what fjamming said. I am running 16x8 wheels with a 3.75 backspacing. My wheels are 10.50" wide and they are right at if not past the fender well.

Fjamming

· #12 · May 23, 2008

Toledo FJ said:
really? I thought we needed 4.5 in. If I don't need spacers, I don't want them. So I should be able to clear these wheels as is?

The smaller the backspacing means the further they will stick out (away from the caliper and UCA). If they stick too far, they'll likely rub more on the body mounts. Something like 4.7 would be ideal (IMHO).

uphill

· #13 · May 23, 2008 (Edited)

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Toledo FJ said:
really? I thought we needed 4.5 in. If I don't need spacers, I don't want them. So I should be able to clear these wheels as is?

You're going to be past the wheel well anyway.

Fjamming said:
Actually you don't want adapters. They'll stick way out as is.

Right on. You don't want them to stick out any more than is ABSOLUTELY necessary.

Shot below of my rig at N. Rim Grand Canyon - you can see how far they clear the wheel wells.

One thing to keep in mind with a wide beadlock ring is that they are HORRIBLE in mud since the mud cakes in behind that beadlock ring. We don't drive in mud very often in SoCal so it's not much of an issue - Michigan may be another thing and you might want to consider a narrow beadlock ring instead.

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Sean K.

· #14 · May 23, 2008

Toledo FJ said:
really? I thought we needed 4.5 in. If I don't need spacers, I don't want them. So I should be able to clear these wheels as is?

As has been mentioned (but hopefully this will clarify), you have it backwards.

If 4.5" of backspacing is what the FJ has stock, then 3.5" will move the whole wheel assembly outboard an additional inch.

HTH,
Sean

Toledo FJ

Discussion Starter · #15 · May 24, 2008

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Thanks for the clarification. Wheel stuff still confuses me. Those look Awesome on your rig Uphill! Are you happy with your wheels? I'm glad you posted cause I called poison spyder and some dude from their sales dept said they don't make any wheels for our bolt pattern. I knew he was wrong.

Here are a couple pics of some typical terrain around my cabin. I was alone when I took these pics, so I couldn't take any real action shots on the fun stuff. These glamor shots will give you a basic idea of the ground type, and maybe you guys can get an idea of what a good tire option would be. Like I said, the AT tires I have now, have done really well so far, so I want someting more aggressive so I can kick it up a notch. I don't generally spend lots of time in deep mud, so I don't think the rings will be a problem. I suppose I can always get both ring styles for if I plan on getting muddy!

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Toledo FJ

Discussion Starter · #16 · May 24, 2008

I think they are jealous :lol:

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Toledo FJ

Discussion Starter · #17 · May 24, 2008

Oops,
I thought those were the Poison Spyder wheels on your rig. I didn't notice they were WE wheels. They look really similar with that ring. I still think the dude was wrong about the bolt pattern not being available for us. I wonder if they would drill a custom set for me if that is the case. If not I guess its back to the drawing board. I'll make some extended fender flares... not like the bushwackers.... just a little wider than they are now if the tires stick out too far. Thanks for the input.

Fjamming

· #18 · May 24, 2008

Toledo FJ said:
Oops,
I thought those were the Poison Spyder wheels on your rig. I didn't notice they were WE wheels. They look really similar with that ring. I still think the dude was wrong about the bolt pattern not being available for us. I wonder if they would drill a custom set for me if that is the case. If not I guess its back to the drawing board. I'll make some extended fender flares... not like the bushwackers.... just a little wider than they are now if the tires stick out too far. Thanks for the input.

The website seem to indicate that they do have the right bolt pattern for us. Who's saying otherwise?

Toledo FJ

Discussion Starter · #19 · May 24, 2008

I called up one of the distributors listed on WheelPros.com in the Ann Arbor MI area. They don't stock them, and have never sold a set, so they had to call Poison Spyder for a price/availability check. They couldn't get through to the tech line so they had to speak to a salesman who said they didn't have out bolt pattern. I think he just didn't know what he was talking about, as is often the case when trying to get specs. I'll see if I can get to the bottom of it. The guy said we need a 6X139.7 pattern.

uphill

· #20 · May 24, 2008

Toledo FJ said:
Oops,
I thought those were the Poison Spyder wheels on your rig. I didn't notice they were WE wheels. They look really similar with that ring.

Poison Spider may be using WE wide beadlock rings on their wheels.

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