hmmm i noticed our Fj kept on beeping on it's own while the fob was in my pocket..I know nothing else was hitting it. it was very bizarre.
:lol:Haha, it was probably me, pressing mine, trying to figure out why the hell it wasn't beeping or locking or anything. :lol: :rofl:
I figured it may be soemthing like this. Thanks.I guess it is possible considering the large numbers of FJ's. I think the key fobs are sort of like 'cell phones' in that their is a limited number of frequencies and codes in use, so some are shared. The key fob by the way, is always transmitting. It is a very weak signal but they are 'always on'. So I would think that it is possible for key fobs close in frequency to interfere with other units....
Indeed. That's what I did....Course if the key fob ever dies, you can always use the key to open your doors.![]()
Aha. Interesting to hear the same thing has happened to others.I had a similar experience when i visited a Toyota dealer a couple of months ago, usually i get very good distance from my remote control to activate/deactivate the locking mechanism, but that day i had to stand 1 feet from my fj to make it lock. it was so weird, i was thinking of buying a new battery, but after i got out from there and got home everything was fine...
I did a little digging and found this very "illuminating" article. I believe that it may be one or more of the police cars or some other communication tower that was transmitting at the same frequency as your keyless remote, hence creating that interference at that spot in front of the Ouray Hotel. It now makes more sense to me, especially after having read the article:[It's all OK now. So, no need to post 'fixes' or anything like that. I just want to share the story and hear what you guys think]
We got Sandi in Feb. this year with two of the all-in-one remote+key devices (the remote device and the key are together in the same object). I gave one to my wife and I use the other (I'm the daily driver - so hers hardly ever gets used).
All of a sudden, on Sunday morning, just after the Summit group photo shoot in Ouray, the devices stopped working. - or so I thought...
After playing with them (both were acting the same way), I discovered that they would work while I was sitting inside the vehicle, but not from the outside (I usually click the thing as I'm walkign up to the vehicle, you know).
Then, my friend, Father Kal (komombo of Sandstorm fame) suggested it was a proximity thing, not an inside/outside thing. Sure enough, they would work if I was standing very close to the front of the FJ, but not when I walked even 5 feet away.
So, at that point, even though JammerGirl's device hardly ever gets used, and even though I knew its battery couldn't drain at the same rate as the one that I use all the time, I thought it might be something to do with the batteries in the devices, and decided to just check on it once we got home.
Then, later that day, when we were in Whitewater (stopped to pick up some fresh Palisade peaches, plums, cherries, etc), I tried it again and they worked just fine once again.
My hunch?....The only thing I can think of is that being there with 50 (60?, 70?) other FJs with the same exact electronic gadgets may have resulted in some kind of RF signal interference/confusion and may have reset in some way once the vehicle was in an area less densly populated with similar RF signals.
Does this make any sense?
Has anyone else ever experienced this?
Do you know what caused it?
This is all just curiosity for me know, but I'd sure be interested in hearing any legitimate explanations.
Thanks.
steven
p.s. I debated on whether to put this in the Summit section or not, but since it seems more to do with my rig in particular, and not necessarily anything to do with the Summit it self (other than possibly resulting from a large gathering of FJs), I put it here in the seciton that seems to deal with electronic issues.
So...the NSA was spying on the Summit?!?!? :lol::rofl:I did a little digging and found this very "illuminating" article. I believe that it may be one or more of the police cars or some other communication tower that was transmitting at the same frequency as your keyless remote, hence creating that interference at that spot in front of the Ouray Hotel. It now makes more sense to me, especially after having read the article:
Keyless Remotes To Cars in Waldorf Suddenly Useless (washingtonpost.com)
Cheers.
:lol: :lol:So...the NSA was spying on the Summit?!?!? :lol::rofl:
Ummm, I don't know?! More likely, Ouray is relay point of secret information. I just had an idea: if you can hack into your keyless remote, will you be able to download secret government communication or send neat little messages to the NSA.So...the NSA was spying on the Summit?!?!? :lol::rofl:
Ok, so this brings up another question....in fact, it reminds me to ask another one as well...Cell towers...hmmm....there was a member there who had a cell repeater installed in his FJ. Maybe that was the source of interference?
Indeed....Not sure if you noticed but the key fob for the FJ has a bit of range to them!![]()
Ok, cool.Good range indeed! :rocker:
Here's some technical info on the keyless entry that I've compiled... The keyless entry is KeeLoq-based (a Microchip hopping code technology). I've used some of the line's products before, but they're employing a custom solution (utilizing programming instead of the drop-in IC's). Also, it uses a 434-MHz TX/RX frequency, as identified by a spectrum analyzer (CanadaFJ, you were close!). This makes sense, considering many reference designs also use 434-MHz. That's all for now! :wave: