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I know Toyota says that you can go up to 27" of water. One of the Toyota models at the Auto Show said you can't hose it out. This leads me to ask for those that plan on going swimming in the FJ, where are the items that are restricting higher forging or is it just a matter of bouyancy? If you added a snorkel, would it do any good? Are the FJ brains (electronics) mounted somewhere that the water would fry at 29"? What can be done to protect oneself from damaging a swimming FJ? How many vents would you have to extend to a higher location?

Just thought it was a different topic then what has been discussed thus far.
 

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Too bad its nt like that new jeep they show underwater in their commercials.
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I think that is just as bad as Volvo reinforcing their vehicle for the monster truck commercial and cutting the pillars of the other cars.


I'd like to know about the snorkel too, but I doubt we will be able to know much until the FJ arrives. You would think that since its basically a Prado guts machine that whatever you could do with that you could do with the FJ.
 

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Baldy TMOG said:
Too bad its nt like that new jeep they show underwater in their commercials.
:eek:

notice the disclaimer telling people not to try that? I'm waiting for the first dad to take their new Jeep into the lake because he saw it on Tv....

My FJ probably won't see much water time unless I steer the wrong direction on the beach by mistake! (or misjudge tides)
 

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'Forging' is bangin' on steel to shape it

'Fording' is crossing water

I know I know- we hate to use the word 'ford' around here

the grammer police
 

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notice the disclaimer telling people not to try that? I'm waiting for the first dad to take their new Jeep into the lake because he saw it on Tv....

My FJ probably won't see much water time unless I steer the wrong direction on the beach by mistake! (or misjudge tides)

if there's to many people on the beach you may want to park it on the sandbar...
 

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I'm wondering what Toyota did to keep water out of the air intake. On the Tacomas up to '04, there is a snorkel strategically placed (and shaped) high inside the fender. So it gets cool air from the fender! And, in theory anyway, they did some testing to make sure water won't be easily ingested.

I haven't seen what the re-designed '05 Tacomas have inside the fender.
 

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You will float at some point then you need to flood the interior to "sink" it and hope you get traction before it or you drown. You will need a snorkel and extended differential breathers and or tranny breather. You will also need a radiator fan kill switch to prevent the fan from eating the radiator, the fan blades bend when they hit water. Most of the time when the computer hits water it's game over so you will want to find out where that is. Also if you get the 6speed do not shift while in water, pick a gear and leave it in gear.


This is serious warranty voiding abuse and you will need do a full lube and fluid service afterwards to make sure nothing sucked water. When a hot differential or transmission hits cold water it creates a vacuum so don't even think about it without extended breather tubes.

Do yourself a favor and buy a old diesel beater truck for this type of stuff or get a boat :D
 

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I know Toyota says that you can go up to 27" of water. One of the Toyota models at the Auto Show said you can't hose it out. This leads me to ask for those that plan on going swimming in the FJ, where are the items that are restricting higher forging or is it just a matter of bouyancy? If you added a snorkel, would it do any good? Are the FJ brains (electronics) mounted somewhere that the water would fry at 29"? What can be done to protect oneself from damaging a swimming FJ? How many vents would you have to extend to a higher location?

Just thought it was a different topic then what has been discussed thus far.
you will want to put extended breathers on both the front and rear differentials (the air filter housing is generally a good place to start) at least as those are almost sure to get wet if playing in the water. from the looks of this:

the intake goes into the starboard fender, making it well suited for snorkel installation. also much better than the older (79-95) trucks/4runners whose intake was right behind the drivers headlight, all the better for sucking in splashed water (i know from experience). the computer is, more than likely, someshere in the cabin. if it gets wet you have done something HORRIBLY wrong.
 

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Ouch- ya got me big time!!:(

'no child left behind'



geeezzz
back to school for me:rolleyes:
 

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i wanna see this jeep commercial. anyone have a link?

as far is the electronics, toyota states(via fj bulletin) that all external electronics are water tight.
 

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i wanna see this jeep commercial. anyone have a link?

as far is the electronics, toyota states(via fj bulletin) that all external electronics are water tight.
Earlier post on this board stated the reason you can't hose it out is because the sensors for the sidecurtain airbags are located on the floor.
 

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MountainBiker said:
I'm wondering what Toyota did to keep water out of the air intake. On the Tacomas up to '04, there is a snorkel strategically placed (and shaped) high inside the fender. So it gets cool air from the fender! And, in theory anyway, they did some testing to make sure water won't be easily ingested.

I haven't seen what the re-designed '05 Tacomas have inside the fender.
They did the same thing with the FJ ...
 

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I took mine through about 2'6" deep and 40' long trough and crossed a running river that may have been a shade more shallow. I had one of the trails guys with me when I did it. Second gear (L), pushing a wave in front of us that was about as high as the top of the headlights.

He said not to let up and keep up with the wave because it pushes the water away from the sides so you don't fill up with water. The water mark was about to the top of the tires.

Sure enough, when we got out later, the water seeped maybe 1/3 of the way in under the door.

No problems in either crossing, but this thread has made me nervous about going any deeper than that. I guess the key is to know how deep the water is before you jump in.
 

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ALWAYS know how deep the water is before just plowing in. Im sure the toyota stated spec is low for liability reasons, however, I dont plan to find out what the REAL fording limit is lol.
 

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Just thought I would share, since I would rather read this than experience it again.

The first weekend I owned my FJ I took it off-roading. At the area I was operating at, there was a river/stream that cris-crossed the whole area. Most of the water crossings where marked, but there were plenty of areas to ford w/o following other lines.

Anyway, long story long. After doing many crossings going out w/ water no higher than probably around 15" I figured most everything out there was pretty low. Coming back I took a totally different approach and hit water that was probably way too deep for recommended FJ use. The crossing was about 20 yard across and about 3/4 of the way through I hit some really deep stuff that brought the water over the nose...sustained. "Oh $hit!!!" I'm thinking, but since I was already committed and so close to the other side I kept my foot in it and made it across...the whole time water was over the hood (& no, I'm not talking splashing over...but flowing over).

Once I got on land I keep driving to keep it hot and burn off any water...the whole time I'm just waiting for it to start to sputter and shut down. Good news was it never missed a beat and I'm still having no problems. Again, I wouldn't recommend you trying this out yourself...but just so you know, in case you find yourself in this situation all might not be lost. For me it was just the start of my already high confidence in the FJs durability that seems to grow stronger every time I get it off road.
 

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I haven’t crossed the local river yet with my FJ but I sure have sprayed it out with the garden hose. I’ve done it about five times in the front, a good 2 inches or so. I use the air compressor to blow out the big stuff and the water to clean out any mud or food (kids). I haven’t had any problem yet but I think I’ll move to a damp towel.
 

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I haven’t crossed the local river yet with my FJ but I sure have sprayed it out with the garden hose. I’ve done it about five times in the front, a good 2 inches or so. I use the air compressor to blow out the big stuff and the water to clean out any mud or food (kids). I haven’t had any problem yet but I think I’ll move to a damp towel.
I have not had the need to spray out my FJ yet, but that was a big selling point for me seeing as I have two dogs and want to get them dirty w/ the FJ. But, I must say I was a little disappointed with the integrity of the rubber flooring when I got a chance to really check it out.

Has anybody else noticed the holes in the rubber (you can see the color of your FJ coming through)? Mine is VB so it was pretty obvious. To me, I see that as an easy area for excessive dirt & sand to build up over the years and scratch the hell out of the paint. I don't care what it looks like under there, but I'm concerned if you start sanding off the paint under the flooring and then spend years spraying out your FJ...it's only a matter of time before I rust the heck out of my FJs floorboards. Seeing this phenomenon develop in many old trucks, I was kind of hoping the rubber flooring was sealed a little better than it appears to be. Am I worrying for no reason?
 

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Need to install a drain plug, I tip mine up at about 15 degrees when i do a wet wash on the inside to let it run out the doors.
 
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