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The amp placement is unreal. Any worry about heat? Most people put their speakers there but I would hate to be in the back seat if you have your system booming :)

Great set up!
Yeah my kids ears are bleeding by the time i get them to school but a quick wipe down and they'r good to go.. Just kidding .I actually wasnt to hip to the idea but we tried the rear first and there were just 2 many speakers back there already, balance they tell me...

Heat does not seem to be an issue ,,yet.
ty, Paul
 

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That is a pretty covert amp install. I like that. I hate seeing things like amps and what not. Looks cleaner.
 

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i havent seen anyone placed an amp there... pretty kool.... how thick of a wood did you use? Do you have the measurement of your amp?
 

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I like the placement of the amp. Way better then under the seat or the back storage that Ive seen alot here.
 

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I installed a Kicker VR 8" in my factory sub box and pushed it w/ 400 amps. Sounds great.
 

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I did the same thing and upgraded the factory sub box wit JL Audio 8W1v2.4, 8" 4-ohm subwoofer. I mounted the new mono amp under the driver seat.



Now we can enjoy the XM music feed much ... much better.
 

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Ace, I've been silently lurking for months to see if anyone has actually tried to take the stock Jammer apart and make the correct connections to splice into the pre-amp output stage.....for the soul purpose of ending up with RCA jacks to run external amps (NOTE....I hate inline high output amp to amp connections). Like some of the other guys, I think the stock Jammer is a good unit and given the right combination of amps, proper installation and adjusting of the amps....I stongly believe the pre-amp signal is clean and strong enough to provide quality sound reproduction. I've had this done in the past to 90's Fords with no problem, but haven't found anyone else yet that has given this a try. Thought it wouldn't hurt to ask the question again....ANYONE KNOW OF SOMEONE WHO HAS THE SMARTS TO MAKE THIS KIND OF A MODIFICATION?:thinkerg:
It took some time to find:rofl:but I finally found a shop that was able to convert the OEM FJammer to pre-amp out put RCA jacks. Cost?.....about $85....now I'm going to start shopping for some Boston Pro's along with a couple of Kenwood HP amps. I've got a set of Bazooka 6" subs (master & slave), I just don't know if I want them taking up room in the rear. I'm probably going to pull the factory sub system and work on modifying the two rear suicide doors to accept 8 inch subs....try to go for a no show system that will satisfy my acoustic desires.

If your interested the company that did the modification to the FJammer is located in Van Nuys California. Hi-Tech Electronic Services, phone 818-785-8085...you want to talk to Bijan...he's the owner. They do factory warranty work for just about every audio video manufacturer out there....very nice shop and he's a great guy....he had to contact Fujitsu to obtain the schematic to do the conversion and didn't flinch when I brought the unit in for the modification.
 

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maybe you can talk to him about a package of converting head units and selling the new speakers, wiring, etc for a full sound upgrade?
 

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maybe you can talk to him about a package of converting head units and selling the new speakers, wiring, etc for a full sound upgrade?
Hey....come on...I'm not even sure this is worth responding to.....

If you like your FJammer and want a cleaner sound and are willing to do the rest of it...then this is an option for consideration. It's something I'd been looking to do for some time and I finally found a company that would do it.

Be realistic....how many people out there have preferences for different kinds of wiring...let alone their preferred speakers....etc. etc. ETC.! Sorry...if I'm taking your response wrong....but it doesn't sound like a valid inquiry as much as it sounds like a:flame:
 

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Hey....come on...I'm not even sure this is worth responding to.....

If you like your FJammer and want a cleaner sound and are willing to do the rest of it...then this is an option for consideration. It's something I'd been looking to do for some time and I finally found a company that would do it.

Be realistic....how many people out there have preferences for different kinds of wiring...let alone their preferred speakers....etc. etc. ETC.! Sorry...if I'm taking your response wrong....but it doesn't sound like a valid inquiry as much as it sounds like a:flame:
I didn't take it as a flame, as I'd be interested if I could get something like plug & play for pre-amp outs :rocker:
 

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Mwhy....in a sense I view it as a plug and play as far as the HU is concerned. I don't know of any stock pile of good used FJammers sitting around and then getting them to the company to convert. All you have to do is arrange to either drop your HU off with them (or send it via courier) and in 2 or 3 days your back in business. I dropped mine off on Wednesday last week and picked it up Saturday.

The variables that come into play at that point are....the type of wiring, number and kind of speakers (and routing of wires)....amps (and their location)...how many and what power rating. If your going to modify you head unit (or build a custom sound system in your vehicle), the next step is to determine what you want to hook up to it. If your not into this kind of thing or not willing to pay someone else to do it for you....then I would suggest you not go any further.

This process is simply another alternative to buying an after market head unit and installing it.....:clap:....I like the factory HU and think it's pretty good as it is....but it is very weak if you like quality robust sound. For $85 you have pre-amp outputs to hook up to your favorite amplifiers, designing your lay out and tweaking it to your hearts content....with the added bonus that IT LOOKS LIKE A FACTORY SYSTEM!

To each his own....this one just happens to be mine.....:cheers:
 

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Hey....come on...I'm not even sure this is worth responding to.....

If you like your FJammer and want a cleaner sound and are willing to do the rest of it...then this is an option for consideration. It's something I'd been looking to do for some time and I finally found a company that would do it.

Be realistic....how many people out there have preferences for different kinds of wiring...let alone their preferred speakers....etc. etc. ETC.! Sorry...if I'm taking your response wrong....but it doesn't sound like a valid inquiry as much as it sounds like a:flame:
Sounded like a valid inquiry to me. I'd like to take my truck in and have a turnkey system upgrade because I don't know enough about it to do it myself or pick the speakers (let alone the wiring). I can listen to a couple of choices and decide what I like and I can certainly tell you what my budget is, but beyond that...no. Right now I'm looking at doing just a speaker swap but don't really know what I'm looking at/for.
 

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I didn't take it as a flame, as I'd be interested if I could get something like plug & play for pre-amp outs :rocker:
shoot, just get the correct module from PAC, peripheral, stinger, scosche, etc... and tap your high level outputs. as simple as it gets, and super cheap. high-low converter for bass. they have all sorts of configurations. if you are that concerned with keeping the stock head unit but dont care about cost, then go with the factory interface modules from audio control, JL, or fosgate. they all have DSP built in and can sum channels for conventional aftermarket setups.
 

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Sounded like a valid inquiry to me. I'd like to take my truck in and have a turnkey system upgrade because I don't know enough about it to do it myself or pick the speakers (let alone the wiring). I can listen to a couple of choices and decide what I like and I can certainly tell you what my budget is, but beyond that...no. Right now I'm looking at doing just a speaker swap but don't really know what I'm looking at/for.
whats you budget, thoughts on giving up cargo area, and music tastes? give me some of your favorite groups or signers. that will help a lot. i've been around the car audio scene for some time now. played with the FJ a lot. 5 boxes later, two sets of components in this car, two processors, and a whole set of amplifier and woofer switch and its dialed in now, lol.

to give you an idea of what a performance/SQ oriented really energetic setup will look like in a FJ, take a peek at mine. its what its going to take if you want to have a top notch performing setup. that pair of tens and one set of components will drive you out of the car with the amount of energy and noise it makes.

just remember, there is a lot of cost that you dont see. cables, sound deadening, dash kits, harness, materials, etc...






 

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i just wanted to add in that when i first built my stereo for my fj that i tried using a Stinger brand signal adjustable line out converter for my Sub amp and no matter what i did the bass coming out was horrible and very weak. not to mention my fjammer would clip at higher volumes. when i would crank up either the converters settings or my amp i just wasn't getting a decent sound or strong signal. with the bass settings cranked up just to get it to pound harder you could tell the signal was just to weak.

i was using a RF BD 500 amp and 2 ten inch JL audio w3's that i took directly out of my old trailblazer that were hooked up to the stock Bose deck and it shook the whole truck including my eyeballs so i wasn't impressed with the signal quality of the fjammer at all. ended up going with a poineer deck with 5 volt pre outs and wow. shaking my eyes again. :rocker: not to mentien that i have to keep my amp at 1/4 volume because the 5 volt pre outs are so strong there is basicly no distortion and really deep bass.

It really is to bad the fjammer isn't that great because i do think it's a fantastic looking headunit.
 

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i just wanted to add in that when i first built my stereo for my fj that i tried using a Stinger brand signal adjustable line out converter for my Sub amp and no matter what i did the bass coming out was horrible and very weak. not to mention my fjammer would clip at higher volumes. when i would crank up either the converters settings or my amp i just wasn't getting a decent sound or strong signal. with the bass settings cranked up just to get it to pound harder you could tell the signal was just to weak.

i was using a RF BD 500 amp and 2 ten inch JL audio w3's that i took directly out of my old trailblazer that were hooked up to the stock Bose deck and it shook the whole truck including my eyeballs so i wasn't impressed with the signal quality of the fjammer at all. ended up going with a poineer deck with 5 volt pre outs and wow. shaking my eyes again. :rocker: not to mentien that i have to keep my amp at 1/4 volume because the 5 volt pre outs are so strong there is basicly no distortion and really deep bass.

It really is to bad the fjammer isn't that great because i do think it's a fantastic looking headunit.
I understand fully what your talking about....the hook up and equipment you mentioned is problematic at best and would be subject to distortion due to the signal you were working with. Taking a high out put signal off an amplifer (the FJammer has a very weak amplifier to say the least) and then amplifying it again is not always going to provide clean clear sound field....(LOUD?....YES!....QUALITY??)....although there are many people who choose to do it, simply because it is an easy way to accomplish their objective....LOUDER SOUND.

I found out many years ago that working with an audio signal from a pre-amplifier, provides a cleaner and more stable signal....(NOTE: as long as you adjust your amplifiers correctly, the only clipping you should experience is after you've exceeded the threshold of the amplifier....not the pre-amp out signal). But I will say that in no way does the FJammer approaches 5 volt pre-amp output (NOTE:This is a relatively new approach by manufacturers to boost their signal for those wishing to obtain significant eye bleeding, ear drum mashing, brain numbing bass passage out put). But I also know from my audio experience that a properly designed audio system pushing 15 to 25 watts can kick butt and in most cases (the design of the speakers playing a key role....efficiency, etc.)....especially if it has a stable signal....some of the most high end audio equipment out there today don't increase their pre-amp signal as much as they work to design extremely stable amplifier transformers and circuitry...in fact some manufactures have created stable signals capable of crossing your speaker leads ("+" and "-") and the system will not be damaged or self destruct! I haven't taken the time to measure the FJammer pre-amp signal strength, but given what I have experienced with the stock lay out of the factory system I'm 99% sure that the pre-amp signal is very stable and will provide a quality signal to the amplifiers I'll be running.

My plan was never to enter a "SOUND OFF" competition, as much as it was to alert others that there was an alternative to buying an after market deck. I'm not a big poster either here or at the SO CAL FJ-owners site....but I have seen quit a few people express there appreciation for the FJammer. Like them at low volumes (for me) it is an acceptable system....but if you want to boggy down the road at a louder volume (I'm just looking to have bass sufficient to impress inside the vehicle...not all the people with in 6 city block area).

Hope enough is said here to qualify putting this issue to rest. For those of you desiring to argue this further I'll only say...."TO EACH HIS OWN"....personal preference is just that....each person likes what they like for different reasons. So my effort to post here was to bring to those who like the some of the same things I do....an alternative....if you don't that's fine too.:wave:
 

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What I hate about the stock unit is there is only a bass adjustment and not a sub adjustment. It sure would be nice to adjust only the sub to better fit the genre of music I'm listening to at that time.

I'll be interested to read and see pics of your upgrade.
I agree. The stock HU doesn't offer anything in the way of dialing in the sound. That's why I swapped it out in my wife's '07 for a used Kenwood eXcelon KDC-X589 that I picked up on ebay for less than $50 shipped. At least the 589 has a three-band parametic EQ,hi & lo pass XO's, and a sub out.
 
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