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I have no objection to a person trying to make a buck but I feel this orginization lacks any class. If you want to show photos show them dont ask for bucks, if you have infromation say it, dont ask for bucks, if your a whore and need a hit then ask for bucks.
 

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Zartman says,..."But these are two VERY connected, very experienced, and very savvy drivers who have serious seat time in the 2007 FJ Cruiser.

That means you'll be getting first-hand information from people who have driven this machine at length, not watched it drive from another rig or from the sidelines."


.........Aw Dave, you're making me blush, :eek: .....oh, you weren't talking about me? I gave them that for free, maybe I should have charged them for what I knew.

Stop selling, leave all the rhetoric off!!! Next time just give us the photos. :mad: You just don't get it do you?
 

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id be more interested in some porno advertisements round here than charginging for information that we probably all know already and pictures we've probably all seen already.
 
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For the record, and Ekool and Percy will confirm this, I have spoken to Ekool about starting a Vendor arrangement with this website.

Some of you guys never cease to amaze me. I didn't build that page just for FJCruiserforums.com. You get there from the home page, and it's been up for almost a month. Note that there is info about a giveaway, of which the date is almost past. Yes, it's been up for some time, just not with these pics. Where else would I post new pics but on the website? My screen name is 4WD Toyota Owner Magazine; is that not clear enough as to who is posting and what they do?

[Takes Budweiser in hand] I love you guys, man...:p It's all good. My first visit to FJCruiserForums.com in the morning is better than coffee for a jolt to wake me up!

I've added more pics to it, and I'm going to post a TON more photos there today. :D

LRinDallas, the Jan/Feb issue shipped Dec. 28 and 29th, so arrival to Texas could be one to three weeks via magazine bulk rate mail. Thanks!

Happy New Year to all!

Dave,
http://www.4wdtoyotaowner.com
 

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Thanks Dave! I agree that some of the folks in this forum need to take a chill pill. Let's face it, we are not getting a whole lot of new info from anyone so why bash this poor guy when he sends in pictures. You don't have to buy his magazine. So cut him some slack. It's not like he is cluttering up the threads with a bunch of useless crap.
 

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do us a favor post them here being the benevolent guy you are! (unless your trying to drive traffic to your website to impress potential advertisers)
 

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Man, you guys sure do know how to shy potential sponsors away from your site. :) Cut Dave some slack, he said he has already spoken to the powers that be to possibly throw some sponsorship your way.

I'm assuming at this point that somebody is paying for the hosting fees and upkeep of this site out of their own pocket since I do not see any sponsor banners or any way to contribute funds to the site. Funding a site like this will ceratinly turn costly on down the line, trust me...I've already been there and done that with the TTORA site. More traffic means more bandwidth needed and better servers to handle it all. Sponsors really help out to keep a site such as this one going...or at least I know they have for us over at TTORA! :D
 

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Roosterdo said:
I have no objection to a person trying to make a buck but I feel this orginization lacks any class. If you want to show photos show them dont ask for bucks, if you have infromation say it, dont ask for bucks, if your a whore and need a hit then ask for bucks.
Fur Chrissssakes, Peoples! Cut the guy some slack! He's only trying to sell his magazine. He's not offering to take your 16 y.o. daughters away for the weekend! DAMN! And why shouldn't he sell to us? We ARE his audience. I dont' get the hostility from some of you guys. Do you have any idea how hard it is to start a specialty magazine? I mean, if we don't buy it, then who will? And then it's gone and I'm stuck reading my Hustlers...

I don't know Dave Fartman, I don't want to know him. I'm not selling for him, but I'm gonna tell you I think these mags are great. I back-ordered the first two issues, got 'em yesterday, then spent all last night at work sneaking peaks and dodging bosses so I could ogle all those great pictures and build up articles.. Dave, I loved the section on the history of Toyo 4x4s. Filled in a lot of information gaps for me... So, I, for one, am glad the mag was introduced to me in this forum. I probably would not have bought it otherwise.

Only one suggestion to Mr. Zartman (spelled it right this time, eh?) Some articles for us low-er tech guys... The ones in this bunch without access to plasma cutters or TIG welders or some tattoo'd guy who knows how to use 'em. Maybe some poor man mods or simple how-to-lifts for 4runners? (Just lookin' out for No. 1, with that suggestion).

Keep 'em comin, Dave. And thanks for the add'l pix of the FJC and I am sooooo waiting for my next issure of 4WDTO's MAG! Who knows, someday, your mag might even give me the confidence to attempt an SAS on my 4runner. But I'd have to get some tattoos, first.

Spikey ranting again. Sorry. :rolleyes:

:) :) :D
 

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Spike, gotta say man, you have amazed me yet again...

Spike's right... who do you guys think pays for this site. It's not me, and it's not you so be nice to potential sponsors. Especially potential sponsors with hot new pics of the FJ that we haven't already seen 7,000 times. Personally, I can't wait to get the FJ or the magazine!
 

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Roosterdo said:
I have no objection to a person trying to make a buck but I feel this orginization lacks any class. If you want to show photos show them dont ask for bucks, if you have infromation say it, dont ask for bucks, if your a whore and need a hit then ask for bucks.
And I take it you'll be making your FJ payments based solely on income derived from just standing there and looking good.
 

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Spike can deal sometimes can't he. Except for the daughter part.
 

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And I take it you'll be making your FJ payments based solely on income derived from just standing there and looking good.
Correct!
 

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Here is an idea set up a special discussion thread section for him or anyone else who wants to solicit business from members. Everyone who is interest in his or anyone else's wears can enjoy, while those who would rather not be SPAMMED in General Discussion can avoid the used car salesman tactics. This way everyone is happy. Beside now it is just one guy trying to make a buck but what will happed to the quality of this forum when 1 out of every 3 post in an overt or convert ad from other biased guys trying to make a buck?
 
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