i went to westwood jepep today to pick up another liberty diesel for the company and i saw the new 4 door wrangler. it was nice and rugged looking but was not impressed. it did however have full skids underneath and the doors seemed very very lite. probably because they can be removed. otherwise it wasn't very impressive. maybe jeep dudes will like it. it had 18's on with 255s. the only thing i like about it is the option to take the top of. offcourse i opened the hood and there's a smallish looking v6 under there which puts out 202 horses. anyway just thought i'd tell those who wanted to go see it that dealers have it now.